Spitzer Spritzer

[Dora]

Did you hear how young the girls were? Barely 18! Makes me furious! Just little kids!

Nothing makes me angrier than the porn industry, it's slavery in its worst form.

And glossing over the reality of the horror and degradation it causes all over the globe is sickening.

Ok...stepping awayyyy from my soapbox...

[TRFrance]

And his oldest daughter is that age... 18.

[Pressing-On]

(excerpt)

March 13, 2008
What I Couldn't Teach Spitzer at Harvard Law
By Susan Estrich

How could one smart guy get that stupid?

He used his own cell phone to arrange for a prostitute to go from New York to Washington, D.C., to have sex with him. Didn't he remember the stuff I taught him about how crossing state lines and using phone wires turn things into federal crimes, about the aptly named Mann Act, which makes prostitution a federal offense when you cross state lines to do it? Eight years of prosecuting Wall Street as attorney general of New York, and he was still clumsy enough in pulling money from his own accounts that his bank noted it and alerted the authorities to suspicious transactions on his account.

The easy answer, the one I heard frequently as the story was breaking, is that men just get stupid about sex. But prostitution is -- from my vantage point as a woman and a mother -- a particularly unattractive and offensive kind of extramarital activity. I really believe it is none of my business, as a member of the public or the media, if a political or business leader has an affair. I don't sit in judgment of other people's marriages or their private lives. But prostitution isn't just sex. Prostitution objectifies the women who engage in it, dehumanizes sex and sexuality, and turns both into commodities with a price tag.

Rich, powerful men don't need to pay women to have sex; there are plenty who will do it for nothing, save the expectation that they be treated as people. I have never understood why such men prefer to pay for it. Or, more accurately, I have understood, and I think less of them for their choice. What does it say about a man that he'd rather pay for sex? That he is willing to offer nothing but money? It is the cheapest sex a man can have, a friend of mine says, which is why I find it so offensive. Both Eliot and I are big believers in personal responsibility.

Of course, the real issue isn't sex, but judgment. Ruining a career you've spent decades building, ruining your future, making yourself vulnerable to criminal punishment, humiliating yourself and your family literally in the eyes of the world, all for a few nights in the sack with a whore? Insane. Just insane.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...eliot_spi.html

[tamor]

Originally Posted by Pressing-On

(excerpt)

March 13, 2008
What I Couldn't Teach Spitzer at Harvard Law
By Susan Estrich

How could one smart guy get that stupid?

He used his own cell phone to arrange for a prostitute to go from New York to Washington, D.C., to have sex with him. Didn't he remember the stuff I taught him about how crossing state lines and using phone wires turn things into federal crimes, about the aptly named Mann Act, which makes prostitution a federal offense when you cross state lines to do it? Eight years of prosecuting Wall Street as attorney general of New York, and he was still clumsy enough in pulling money from his own accounts that his bank noted it and alerted the authorities to suspicious transactions on his account.

The easy answer, the one I heard frequently as the story was breaking, is that men just get stupid about sex. But prostitution is -- from my vantage point as a woman and a mother -- a particularly unattractive and offensive kind of extramarital activity. I really believe it is none of my business, as a member of the public or the media, if a political or business leader has an affair. I don't sit in judgment of other people's marriages or their private lives. But prostitution isn't just sex. Prostitution objectifies the women who engage in it, dehumanizes sex and sexuality, and turns both into commodities with a price tag.

Rich, powerful men don't need to pay women to have sex; there are plenty who will do it for nothing, save the expectation that they be treated as people. I have never understood why such men prefer to pay for it. Or, more accurately, I have understood, and I think less of them for their choice. What does it say about a man that he'd rather pay for sex? That he is willing to offer nothing but money? It is the cheapest sex a man can have, a friend of mine says, which is why I find it so offensive. Both Eliot and I are big believers in personal responsibility.

Of course, the real issue isn't sex, but judgment. Ruining a career you've spent decades building, ruining your future, making yourself vulnerable to criminal punishment, humiliating yourself and your family literally in the eyes of the world, all for a few nights in the sack with a whore? Insane. Just insane.

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/art...eliot_spi.html

Yep, that just about sums it up....

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by tamor

Yep, that just about sums it up....

Yes, but then see this side of the issue!!!

"Many commentators are indicting Spitzer mostly for hypocrisy, but aren't we the real hypocrites? We watch and tolerate the most salacious television programs; we produce soft pornography to sell in grocery stores, displaying it on checkout line shelves, we post hardcore porn on the Internet; we feature on magazine covers women who have had babies with sperm donors they call boyfriends, but do not marry them; girls are sexualized at ever-younger ages; we equate shacking up with marriage as equal moral choices and then express shock when members of both political parties behave in ways that emulate what they see the rest of us tacitly approving.

Culture once produced gobs of shame for people who engaged in such activities, but no more. Now the question becomes whether such laws are outmoded and if it should be considered a private matter between Spitzer and his family. This is the legacy of the Bill Clinton years. "It was only sex," cried Clinton's defenders of his tryst with Monica Lewinsky. It was no one else's business, except his family. Each time such behavior is excused, we ensure we will get more of it." - Cal Thomas
http://www.townhall.com/columnists/C...rried_governor

[chosenbyone]

This was the young lady in the center of the controversy (lady of the night). She was a runaway from a troubled home in NJ who moved to NY to become a musician.

[Hoovie]

I myself am concerned about the $$$$!

For $4,000.00 you could hire an acrobat from the circus to do some pretty cool tricks!

Of course the act is immoral and broke the marriage vows... but hello! This is normal behavior for for politicians and actors both. It is no surprise to me - really.

The only unusual thing is the bigger money paid for these tricks, and the fact that he broke interstate laws etc. Guys DO often pay for sex. It is becoming normal, for men with money, to trade in an aging wife for a youngster with lessor means... buy her a Farrari and a three a 5M $ house... that is paying for sex too, IMHO.

[Barb]

Re women who stand beside the men who have strayed in their marriange and publicly humiliated them, there are many factors to consider...not the least of which is the children involved.

I don't know what I do, but when it comes to marital forgiveness, I always go in my mind back to an incident that what partially played out in this city...

An elder was in a mini revival at the church I used to attend. His wife was not present in the services, and they kept requesting prayer forher... "Sis. So and So is sick..."

What had actually happened was, she had left her husband for her girlfriend.

But she came to her right spiritual mind, repented, and not only did her husband forgive her, but the church family forgave her and accepted her back as First Lady.

That is a lot of forgiveness...

[BrotherEastman]

What's wrong with you people!?!?! We bash Spitzer when he does something morally wrong, we re-elect Clinton when he does something wrong! LOL! We need help in this country. *okay, I'm done*

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by BrotherEastman

What's wrong with you people!?!?! We bash Spitzer when he does something morally wrong, we re-elect Clinton when he does something wrong! LOL! We need help in this country. *okay, I'm done*

We? You got a mouse in your pocket, homie?