What I thought was going on here is that CH made some comments directed at RD that are not true. He has since then been trying to prod RD into a debate with him, which CH would promptly lose because he is completely out of his league when it comes to RD. However, being the gentleman that he is, RD has not taken the aforementioned bait. That, plus what you said! LOL!
Yeah, I saw that you said what I said about RD's knowledge just before I posted it. He doesn't know who he's talking to, that's for sure. LOL!
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I've gone and done it now! I'm on Facebook!!!
His claims that since certain Holy Ghost filled men say one thing, and non Holy Ghost filled men say another, he'll choose the Holy Ghost filled men because they have anointing, yet JW isn't Holy Ghost filled (according to how Chris believes), but he'll toss aside the words of Holy Ghost filled men on this forum to defend his 'gut feelings', which he takes as anointing, but I think it's just gas bubbles.
This is a very complex discussion. Jeremiah Wright’s statements are similar to those made by classical Pentecostals during the first 3 decades of the 1900’s regarding warfare. The issue in consideration is the vaporization of innocent children when the United States dropped two atomic bombs on an unsuspecting civilian population (innocent men, women, and children). Jeremiah Wright took strong issue with this, however many of us here wave our flags and feel that it’s better them than us. Seemingly we have forgotten that our Pentecostal forefathers would have fallen down in prayer for innocents and refused to support any action that would have taken innocent lives. As a matter of fact it is in our articles of faith that the UPCI stands against the taking of life and only supports non-combatant military service. This precludes praise and support of widespread killing of innocent civilians yet we see this here. ReformedDave’s theology presents a radical break from classical Pentecostalism. He has clearly impressed many here and has had a bit of influence. However, his views are alien to those held by Holy Ghost lead people. ReformedDave’s views are in harmony with the Reformed Presbyternain’s Theonomics, a leading philosophical branch in the Christian Right and Religio-Political Conservatism. Essentially this equates to a break from Holy Ghost led teaching of peace and separation for assimilation into the Dominionist paradigm. It’s disturbing.
Jeremiah Wright’s comments may have been over the top…however the discussion regarding them has revealed an even greater theological divide among Apostolic Pentecostals and an abandonment of the ways of peace as taught by our founders.
So there are two intertwined discussions taking place and each overlaps the other.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
And I believe that I follow men who have that annointing along with knowledge. And you and I disagree. So what settles the matter? Obviously Scripture.
Please present physical violence, use of lethal force, revolution, and/or war as being advocated or presented by example among those living under the New Covenant in the New Testament Church. Please commit to not posting until you do. That will settle the issue.
This is a very complex discussion. Jeremiah Wright’s statements are similar to those made by classical Pentecostals during the first 3 decades of the 1900’s regarding warfare. The issue in consideration is the vaporization of innocent children when the United States dropped two atomic bombs on an unsuspecting civilian population (innocent men, women, and children). Jeremiah Wright took strong issue with this, however many of us here wave our flags and feel that it’s better them than us. Seemingly we have forgotten that our Pentecostal forefathers would have fallen down in prayer for innocents and refused to support any action that would have taken innocent lives. As a matter of fact it is in our articles of faith that the UPCI stands against the taking of life and only supports non-combatant military service. This precludes praise and support of widespread killing of innocent civilians yet we see this here. ReformedDave’s theology presents a radical break from classical Pentecostalism. He has clearly impressed many here and has had a bit of influence. However, his views are alien to those held by Holy Ghost lead people. ReformedDave’s views are in harmony with the Reformed Presbyternain’s Theonomics, a leading philosophical branch in the Christian Right and Religio-Political Conservatism. Essentially this equates to a break from Holy Ghost led teaching of peace and separation for assimilation into the Dominionist paradigm. It’s disturbing.
Jeremiah Wright’s comments may have been over the top…however the discussion regarding them has revealed an even greater theological divide among Apostolic Pentecostals and an abandonment of the ways of peace as taught by our founders.
So there are two intertwined discussions taking place and each overlaps the other.
CH, this is all fine and dandy, but RD knows what you believe better than you know what you believe. He rarely comes out in defense of his beliefs, but when he does you had better look out. You are completely out of your league and don't even know it.
No, but I wouldn't throw out their words because they don't have the Holy Ghost either.
Neither would I necessarily agree with everything DKB has to say.
Oh, I don't throw out their words. But as far as being viewed as having any authority among the Holy Ghost church of the Spirit filled...their teachings are but dung.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
CH, this is all fine and dandy, but RD knows what you believe better than you know what you believe. He rarely comes out in defense of his beliefs, but when he does you had better look out. You are completely out of your league and don't even know it.
I serve a big God. David took down the giant. What have I to fear?
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
I serve a big God. David took down the giant. What have I to fear?
Fear has nothing to do with it. Wisdom does, however. RD could embarass you very easily if he wanted to. I am going to let it go after this post, but I am telling you, you are completely out of your league, Bro.
Fear has nothing to do with it. Wisdom does, however. RD could embarass you very easily if he wanted to. I am going to let it go after this post, but I am telling you, you are completely out of your league, Bro.
If he embarasses me it will be by personal attack, for I am a a flawed individual. However, I suspect that it will not be through discussion of the biblical view point.
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"For I know the plans I have for you, declares the LORD, plans for wholeness and not for evil, to give you a future and a hope." Jeremiah 29:11 (English Standard Version)
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