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Old 03-26-2008, 04:39 PM
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Re: God created more then one male and female.

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20 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. (KJV)

Soooooo, was there eight races/ethnicities and each person represent one????
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:46 PM
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Dude, you are suggesting that only black cows can birth black cows? Only red hens can lay eggs that have red chicks in them?

I have white female friends that have black children. I have black female friends who have white children.

God didn't command that every creature of every color come on board the ark. Only two of each KIND. This excluded humans, of course, cause we know that EIGHT humans were present!

God saved Noah and his family because they were the only ones found righteous in His sight.

Gen. 6:6 And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

7 And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

8 But Noah found grace in the eyes of the LORD.

9 These are the generations of Noah: Noah was a just man and perfect in his generations, and Noah walked with God.

10 And Noah begat three sons, Shem, Ham, and Japheth.

11 The earth also was corrupt before God, and the earth was filled with violence.

12 And God looked upon the earth, and, behold, it was corrupt; for all flesh had corrupted his way upon the earth.

13 And God said unto Noah, The end of all flesh is come before me; for the earth is filled with violence through them; and, behold, I will destroy them with the earth.

God did not then go against what He said and then save a male and a female from every race! They weren't righteous, if they even existed!

Fact is, you have no Biblical proof that any other race other than whatever Adam, Eve, and Noah were existed before the flood. NONE.
Right,you have white frends who have black kids because the kids daddy is black or one of their grand parents is black or have black in them some place but two pure whites never had a black and never will.Guess you know nothing about chickens or cows either.
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Old 03-26-2008, 04:54 PM
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On Noah's Ark there were living of ALL flesh and that includes all races of people.Sons of man.Gen.6:18 But with thee will I establish my covenant; and thou shalt come into the ark, thou, and thy sons, and thy wife, and thy sons' wives with thee(Sons of God).
6:19 And of every living thing of all flesh(Sons of man too), two of every sort shalt thou bring into the ark,
to keep them alive with thee;they shall be male and female.

1Peter003:020 Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls(Sons of God) were saved by water.
Hey, what translation is that? Mine does not say "(Sons of man too)"

In fact the author of Genesis explains
Gen 6:20 Of the birds according to their kinds, and of the animals according to their kinds, of every creeping thing of the ground, according to its kind, two of every sort shall come in to you to keep them alive.
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Once again,no scripture.
I gave scripture already..once again YOU just posted no scripture lol. You are sounding like a broken record. I was simply pointing out something that you clearly can't grasp
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BTW the hebrew word for man in Genesis 1:26 is ....YELP! ADAM!
Same Hebrew word for Adam in Gen 2.3 and 4.

Adam was the FIRST MAN Joel...yet your take has him being the second man made after those on day 6

Gen 5:1 This is the book of the generations of Adam. In the day that God created man, in the likeness of God made he him;
Gen 5:2 Male and female created he them; and blessed them, and called their name Adam, in the day when they were created.

This proves once and for all Joel that Gen 1:26 was when Adam was created. Gen 2 is an elaboration of day 6


1Co 15:45 Thus it is written, "The first man Adam became a living being"; the last Adam became a life-giving spirit.

The obvious fact is....to everyone but Joel, is that Joel has NO scripture to back up his assertion. He has only his fanciful opinion.

Adam was named "Adam" because HE was the first human being

She was named EVE because she was the mother of all the living

Gen 3:20 And Adam called his wife's name Eve, because she was the mother of all living.

Obviously not talking about animals but other humans like her for God said they all beget after THEIR OWN KIND.
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Adam and Eve were the first sons of God and all their descendents are sons of God.Sons of man are other races God created in Gen.1 along with Adam.Adam was taken and placed in the garden.He was the only one to be the father of Sons of God.Eve was the mother of all living,the sons of God.She was not the mother of sons of man.Sons of man are other races.
Once again NO SCRIPTURE
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One very valuable note on Genetics. Today we have a problem with folks marrying related cousins etc.

Because we carry so many recessive genetic genes.

To marry away from your family tree will lower the % that 2 folks will have the same recessive gene.

When at the state of Adam and Eve it took several hundred years before the ozone and environment of death to mutate our cells.

So the first several generations lived longer because they had more pure cellular structure.

I know much about genetics with my son having a very rare recessive genetic blood disorder called Fanconi Anemia.

When 2 races come together and have children they have a less chance of having matching recessive mutated genes...
This is correct.
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The word says God created everything after it's own kind and that includes races of people.It's ignorant for anyone to think all kind of dogs came from one kind or all kind of birds came from one kind and so on with all creation.The same as all kind of races of people didn't come from one kind.

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[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
All races came from Shem, Ham and Japheth.

Egypt was called the land of Ham. He and his family went down there and repopulated the area we now call Africa
Psa 105:23 Then Israel came to Egypt; Jacob sojourned in the land of Ham.

Gen 9:17 God said to Noah, "This is the sign of the covenant that I have established between me and all flesh that is on the earth."
Gen 9:18 The sons of Noah who went forth from the ark were Shem, Ham, and Japheth. (Ham was the father of Canaan.)
Gen 9:19 These three were the sons of Noah, and from these the people of the whole earth were dispersed.

All the earth came from the three sons of Noah, not from others on the ark joel.

Also note too it was AFTER the flood that God confused their languages and they all went their different directions to form the races. This makes sense the most since certain traits found within a single family would become dominant over time
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It don't mention several times,thought you was into math. ? There was only 8 sons of God on the ark but two of every other race .Other races are sons of man.No proof of racism,it's ignorance to think all races came from one race.
again just fanciful conjecture and no scripture.

Why is it ignorance to think all races came from one race? What is ignorant about it? You have no scriptural proof, so what else is there?
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