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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
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Originally Posted by Antipas
Scott
At one time scientists discovered that the earth actually rotated around the sun. However, the church believed and taught for centuries that the sun rotated around the earth. Those who believed the scientific claim of a heliocentric solar system were branded immoral heretics who threatened the very authority of the Bible. Some were formally charged for heresy.
The scientists were proven correct.
What if the science indicating that there may be a genetic link to this predisposition proves to be correct?
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Scientists say we came from a rock, too. BTW, the church is not the Bible.
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03-31-2008, 10:21 PM
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
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You obviously haven't heard, there are limits on God's grace. Hmmm no that doesn't sound right. Perhaps there are limits on some church's understanding of God's grace.
Well then surely there are some sins which God cannot deal with. Hmmm that doesn't sound right either. Perhaps there are some sins that certain church members can't love through in spite of their claims of knowing what agape means.
Maybe they have forgotten the message of Jesus:
I love you, and there's nothing you can do about it!
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Where is all this coming from? Have I missed posts somewhere? Who is it that is saying God is not able to deliver? Who is it that is saying Jesus did not die for all? The church is not responsible for the sin of a homosexual and more than they are responsible for a muderer or a thief's sin.
If we confess our sin he is faithful in forgiveness. All have sinned.
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Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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03-31-2008, 10:22 PM
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
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Originally Posted by Antipas
What if the homosexual is struggling against a biological anomaly as a result of their genetic make up?
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I don't have all of the answers,but I believe Jesus Christ can help those who are struggling and he loves all people the same.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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03-31-2008, 10:22 PM
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
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Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson
Sister Nahkoe do you believe if a person who is a homosexual,turns to Jesus in repentance and asks God to help them,will Jesus Christ help them with this probelm if they sincerly ask in faith ?
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Brother Scott, I simply do not know.
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God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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03-31-2008, 10:23 PM
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
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Scientists say we came from a rock, too. BTW, the church is not the Bible.
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And scientists are right. We did come from inanimate material,
Genesis 2:7
And the LORD God formed man of the dust of the ground, and breathed into his nostrils the breath of life; and man became a living soul.
We came from mud. Science and religion only differ as to mechanism...natural processes or miraculous creation.
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03-31-2008, 10:23 PM
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
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Originally Posted by Antipas
What if the homosexual is struggling against a biological anomaly as a result of their genetic make up?
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pure speculation, but since we are on it, what if liars have a genetic factor?
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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03-31-2008, 10:24 PM
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
With God all things are possible.Surely Jesus Christ can help people overcome anything they need to overcome.If not we are all in alot of trouble.
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People who are always looking for fault,can find it easily all they have to do,is look into their mirror.
There they can find plenty of fault.
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03-31-2008, 10:25 PM
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
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The answers here are the same as any other sin. Why try to accuse God?
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I'm not so much accusing God as asking questions out loud that I've pondered. I can't be so 100% certain of things that others find so easy to be 100% certain about. My experiences don't allow for that. I really have no doubts that God will work everything out, for everyone, exactly how He wants it worked out. But I don't really think that the church (you know, that entity that can think for itself now...lol) knows what that really is.
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You become free from who you have become, by becoming who you were meant to be. ~Mark from another forum I post on
God did it for us. Out of sheer generosity he put us in right standing with himself. A pure gift. He got us out of the mess we're in and restored us to where he always wanted us to be. And he did it by means of Jesus Christ. ~Romans 3:24 from The Message
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03-31-2008, 10:26 PM
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Genesis 11:10
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
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Originally Posted by nahkoe
Is this church-ese, or do you actually have examples to share?
Maybe a definition of what is meant here by "deliver" is in order as well.
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I believe it with all my heart, I don't need to give examples.
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03-31-2008, 10:27 PM
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Re: Lesbian Teens Allowed At Prom -Scottsboro, AL
It is well known that men have a genetic propensity to rove and breed outside a monogomous relationship - so what? Sin is not excused because of scientific research.
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"It is inhumane, in my opinion, to force people who have a genuine medical need for coffee to wait in line behind people who apparently view it as some kind of recreational activity." Dave Barry 2005
I am a firm believer in the Old Paths
Articles on such subjects as "The New Birth," will be accepted, whether they teach that the new birth takes place before baptism in water and Spirit, or that the new birth consists of baptism of water and Spirit. - THE PENTECOSTAL HERALD Dec. 1945
"It is doubtful if any Trinitarian Pentecostals have ever professed to believe in three gods, and Oneness Pentecostals should not claim that they do." - Daniel Segraves
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