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Old 05-06-2008, 10:40 AM
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Guys...in all honesty it's a game. It doesn't matter who is better or worse out of Obama or Hillary. The Democratic front running is always touted as "the most liberal Democrat". It's designed to galvinize the conservative voting block against the front runner. If Hillary was front runner right now they would argue that she was the most liberal.

The voting history of any candidate is easily manipulated to look however they want it t look.
Sorry for being so stupid and uninformed. Can't believe I didn't see that myself. Oh wise one who knows all, teach us that we may be able to discern truth from those evil spin doctors of the right.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:08 AM
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Sorry for being so stupid and uninformed. Can't believe I didn't see that myself. Oh wise one who knows all, teach us that we may be able to discern truth from those evil spin doctors of the right.


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Yea... he speaketh words of wisdom daily. He droppeth knowledge upon thine head. Like the dewdrops of the morning, like rain from the heavens, so he droppeth his wisdom upon thee.

If thou shalt be wise, hearken thou unto the words of Chris Hall. Deep wisdom floweth from his lips. Sit thou at his feet, thou silly conservative, and learn knowledge! Selah.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:13 AM
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Timmy, Dems do it too. McCain won several states in 2000 because Dems crossed over and voted for him.
Oh, I'm sure you're right! Dirty tricks abound, on both sides. I hate politics.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:17 AM
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Oh, I'm sure you're right! Dirty tricks abound, on both sides. I hate politics.
The reality is most people won't even get out of bed to vote for the candidate they want. If they have to switch parties (as they do in some states) in order to vote in the primary, I doubt they really sway the vote that much. The polls have been pretty consistent in their point spreads, so the Republicans haven't screwed up the Democratic primary too much. The reality is Obama can't seem to win in states that do not have a high concentration of black voters. So Hillary wins states like Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.
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Old 05-06-2008, 11:29 AM
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Guys...in all honesty it's a game. It doesn't matter who is better or worse out of Obama or Hillary. The Democratic front running is always touted as "the most liberal Democrat". It's designed to galvinize the conservative voting block against the front runner. If Hillary was front runner right now they would argue that she was the most liberal.

The voting history of any candidate is easily manipulated to look however they want it t look.

Here’s an example: Health care is a leading issue among Democrats. Clinton’s health care plan has far more government mandates and subsidies than Obama’s. So on what might be the greatest issue the Democrats are running on Hillary is obviously far more liberal and would spend far more tax payer dollars.

It’s a shell game. Don’t buy into it.
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The reality is most people won't even get out of bed to vote for the candidate they want. If they have to switch parties (as they do in some states) in order to vote in the primary, I doubt they really sway the vote that much. The polls have been pretty consistent in their point spreads, so the Republicans haven't screwed up the Democratic primary too much. The reality is Obama can't seem to win in states that do not have a high concentration of black voters. So Hillary wins states like Texas, Ohio, Pennsylvania, etc.
Well, in fairness to B.O., he won Iowa (which is 93% white), Washington, Wisconsin,Alaska, to Dakota, Maine, and several other states with a relatively small black population.

Of course, most of those victories were before the Jeremiah Wright thing exploded on him.

Race is definitely a factor, so we'll see how things go in November against McCain.
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Well, in fairness to B.O., he won Iowa (which is 93% white), Washington, Wisconsin,Alaska, to Dakota, Maine, and several other states with a relatively small black population.

Of course, most of those victories were before the Jeremiah Wright thing exploded on him.

Race is definitely a factor, so we'll see how things go in November against McCain.
I am going to be honest with you. today I am quite the pessimist.

I dont care which of these too idiots wins the dem nomination, the dems will win the presidency. they will also pick up 50 seats in the house and just might end up with 60 seats in the senate.

we are looking at a pretty bleak 2 to 4 years.

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I am going to be honest with you. today I am quite the pessimist.

I dont care which of these too idiots wins the dem nomination, the dems will win the presidency. they will also pick up 50 seats in the house and just might end up with 60 seats in the senate.

we are looking at a pretty bleak 2 to 4 years.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_c...mussen_markets
Only 2-4 years?

I am lifting up my head and looking for Jesus.

It is getting that bad & I echo D4T I would love to be wrong and have you be right Ferd-but I don't think I am.
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I am going to be honest with you. today I am quite the pessimist.

I dont care which of these too idiots wins the dem nomination, the dems will win the presidency. they will also pick up 50 seats in the house and just might end up with 60 seats in the senate.

we are looking at a pretty bleak 2 to 4 years.

http://rasmussenreports.com/public_c...mussen_markets
i hate to say it but you could be right especially with the pretenders around who claim to be cons but just want handouts, and me to pay more taxes, good grief, lol,dt
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Only 2-4 years?

I am lifting up my head and looking for Jesus.

It is getting that bad & I echo D4T I would love to be wrong and have you be right Ferd-but I don't think I am.
well, politically speaking.

It is likely that in 2 years, the electoriate could change on the Dems and give back control of congress to the republicans. it wouldnt be unusual. in fact that would be typical. 4 years from now there will be another presidential election. if the dem president doesnt do very well, it is also likely that they would be ousted.

if you are talking economy... well all bets are off if a dem gets elected.

i will tell you as of today, we have not been in a resession. It is possible that by the 3rd quarter, we will see the bottom of this cycle and start moving up.

that means while the economy is certainly slowing, we have yet to see actual contraction (the definition of resession).

dems getting elected could very well spell doom for the economy because they will raise taxes on those who drive the economy, they will raise capital gain taxes, which really reduce investment.

they will create a greater divide between energy demand and engery supply (driving up costs).
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