Charismatic Apostolic

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

I've felt the move of the Holy Ghost in my shower and on a NYC subway.

Go figure.

I fell the Holy Ghost every where I go too,that's because of what I have not what others have.

[Joie]

Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

Most certainly it does. The True anointing (not personal talents and abilities) will not flow is there is such sin in the church, not talking here about visitors either.

May I have those scriptures, please.
Many blessings.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

How did the Holy Ghost move on Azusa Street ... filling some of our Oneness pioneers during this time period ... with all that trimmed hair and bling-bling and w/ *gasp* trinitarians?

Must've been an amnesty of sorts.

Tax amnesty ... Illegal alien amnesty ...

Holy Ghost amnesty ???

There was no oneness at Azusa St. movement .They broke away later.

[Joelel]

Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

The Holy Ghost fell on Holiness Methodists, read your history.

Many Methodists still believe like pentecostals.

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by rgcraig

I completely agree with you!

However, for someone to say that because women have cut hair there's no MOVE of God at all in those services isn't a conviction. That's just wrong!

I agree that it's wrong. Too much mudslinging from each side of the fence!!!

[chosenbyone]

Originally Posted by Daniel Alicea

Oh I heartily disagree w/ your battleground assessment , CB1

This is not a lost cause ...

This is not about changing the hearts and minds of those who are entrenched in man-made traditions and doctrines ...

but those that sit and lurk on the fence ...

hundreds that read this very forum and dare not weigh in for a multitude of reasons ... including fear of repercussions from their religious peers

This is why some of the other gladiators in the arena of ideas have left their positions here as their influence to shape discussion has withered in the vine....

and whine about not being heard, respected or tolerated ... when in their circles divergent discussion is squashed, ridiculed and vilified

Many have realized their views on outward holiness are not salvific but rather an issue of conviction ....

others have realized falsehoods about doctrine and holiness that have been perpetuated for decades and are now reading, researching and sharing their findings online, blogging, in other forums, homes and churches.

I have no problem w/ this is my conviction as long as it's taught that way ... truly.

There are individual hills to be WON ... and some of us will pursue those relentlessly with THE TRUTH.

SINCE TRUTH MATTERS.

I totally understand the passion you feel to raise the truth as you see it, DA! I just believe that the Spirit of the Lord is the one who will change the hearts and opinions of men, not endless debates.

You're still a good guy in my book either way!

[Cindy]

Originally Posted by Joie

May I have those scriptures, please.
Many blessings.

Oh girl friend dontcha know already, there aren't any. Besides you and I both have seen the move of the Holy Ghost in a church with all kinds of different hair lengths, make up, jewelry, skirt lengths, etc. And even with men there that had long hair. And it happened frequently. It is even happening here now in one of the Baptist churches. We have seen the shockamoo and also just the sweet, sweet spirit of worship move through a congregation. That is when it is joy unspeakable and full of glory, God's glory.

[Pressing-On]

Originally Posted by chosenbyone

I totally understand the passion you feel to raise the truth as you see it, DA! I just believe that the Spirit of the Lord is the one who will change the hearts and opinions of men, not endless debates.

You're still a good guy in my book either way!

Good post!

[Joelel]

Fact is,the Holy Ghost will just fall on many and they can do many wonderful works,that don't mean they are filled or God knows them.

Math.7:12: Therefore all things whatsoever ye would that men should do to you, do ye even so to them: for this is the law and the prophets.
13: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
14: Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
15: Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.
16: Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?
17: Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.
18: A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.
19: Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.
20: Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.
21: Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.
22: Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
23: And then will I profess unto them, I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by Joelel

Fact is,the fewer devils that follow people to services,the more anointing will be there.

hmm... if "the devils" are binding or acting as a throttle on your "anointing" then I submit it's not the Holy Ghost that has been "anointing" you (Matthew 16:17-19).