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Old 05-18-2008, 05:38 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic

I guess I'm a hillbilly and I do read the KJV.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:18 AM
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:37 AM
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I am Johnny come lately to this one I see.

With all do respect, GET A LIFE.
I have a life thank you. It is a new life in Christ, old things pasted away and ALL things became new. The old carnal man had to die.


There is NO SUCH THINK as a Charismatic Apostolic, you are either one or the other.

God will not use unclean vessels. Where there are those claiming to be spirit fill and living like the world you will not find the anointing of the Holy Ghost.

There was an old prophet (who wasn't a true prophet or he would have prophesied against the altar himself0) Who told a young prophet that he was a prophet too and that the Lord told Him something different. Well the old man LIED, he gave a false word.

these folks that live like the world (women with their bobbed hair, maked up faces, pants and so on) do not have any anointing. There may be a spirit there but it's not the HOLY GHOST.

This is not a Apostolic board at all, but a charismatic one

Now rave on, post all you like. I will not be back to respond. There is scripture that talks about this situation, something about pearls.
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Old 05-18-2008, 07:43 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic

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I am Johnny come lately to this one I see.

With all do respect, GET A LIFE.
I have a life thank you. It is a new life in Christ, old things pasted away and ALL things became new. The old carnal man had to die.


There is NO SUCH THINK as a Charismatic Apostolic, you are either one or the other.

God will not use unclean vessels. Where there are those claiming to be spirit fill and living like the world you will not find the anointing of the Holy Ghost.

There was an old prophet (who wasn't a true prophet or he would have prophesied against the altar himself0) Who told a young prophet that he was a prophet too and that the Lord told Him something different. Well the old man LIED, he gave a false word.

these folks that live like the world (women with their bobbed hair, maked up faces, pants and so on) do not have any anointing. There may be a spirit there but it's not the HOLY GHOST.
This is not a Apostolic board at all, but a charismatic one

Now rave on, post all you like. I will not be back to respond. There is scripture that talks about this situation, something about pearls.
I think I would be very careful about making statements like this. If it IS the Holy Ghost, you just spoke against it......and that's not a position I would want to be in.

But, then again, I know you won't receive this........
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:03 AM
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I'm afraid that my standard for understanding God's purity may be a bit higher than yours. You, simply put, are not as pure as He is. And don't bother to protest, you are not. It's as simple as that.

Now for me to try and make someone else to "become like the Almighty," I am either spurring them into a Satanic rebellion (Isaiah 14:14) or I am filling them with despair over trying to do something that they simply cannot do. Hebrews 12 comes to mind here.
Let me answer my own questions for you as I have answered some of these question on this forum before.

Eph.5:3: But fornication, and all uncleanness, or covetousness, let it not be once named among you, as becometh saints;4: Neither filthiness, nor foolish talking, nor jesting, which are not convenient: but rather giving of thanks.5: For this ye know, that no whoremonger, nor unclean person, nor covetous man, who is an idolater, hath any inheritance in the kingdom of Christ and of God

The people who is perfected to the place that they don't ever let these sins be once named among them will be the bride and will inherit the kingdom.The people who are not this perfect will not inherit the kingdom and will be guests.The guests will also have life but will not be the bride.

Gal.5:19: Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness,20: Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies,21: Envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God

1 Cor.6:9: Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind,(Homosexuals)10: Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God

Do you agree these things in red is sin ? Do you think Jesus did these things in red ? Do you agree we are to be pure as Jesus is pure ? Do you agree if we abide in him we sin not ?

1 John3:3: And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.4: Whosoever committeth sin transgresseth also the law: for sin is the transgression of the law.5: And ye know that he was manifested to take away our sins; and in him is no sin.6: Whosoever abideth in him sinneth not: whosoever sinneth hath not seen him, neither known him

If a person has not purified themselves as Jesus is pure they do not know him or has not seen him.They will still have life as a guest.
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Does allowing hair cutting and jewelery affect the move of the holy spirit in a local congregation, your personal annointing or your personal relationship with God?
It is according to your faith, if you don't believe the Holy Spirit is truly in ANY PARTICULAR group of folks then you will not "feel" Him there.

"According to your faith, so be it unto you..."

God is everywhere, at once, there is nowhere that He is not there! If there is faith toward God He will respond. Just because any one individual does not feel His Spirit does not lessen His presence, except in that individual.
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:27 AM
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It is according to your faith, if you don't believe the Holy Spirit is truly in ANY PARTICULAR group of folks then you will not "feel" Him there.

"According to your faith, so be it unto you..."

God is everywhere, at once, there is nowhere that He is not there! If there is faith toward God He will respond. Just because any one individual does not feel His Spirit does not lessen His presence, except in that individual.
So true!

Guess that blows WholeHearted's whole theory!
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I have a life thank you. It is a new life in Christ, old things pasted away and ALL things became new. The old carnal man had to die.


There is NO SUCH THINK as a Charismatic Apostolic, you are either one or the other.

God will not use unclean vessels. Where there are those claiming to be spirit fill and living like the world you will not find the anointing of the Holy Ghost.

There was an old prophet (who wasn't a true prophet or he would have prophesied against the altar himself0) Who told a young prophet that he was a prophet too and that the Lord told Him something different. Well the old man LIED, he gave a false word.

these folks that live like the world (women with their bobbed hair, maked up faces, pants and so on) do not have any anointing. There may be a spirit there but it's not the HOLY GHOST.

This is not a Apostolic board at all, but a charismatic one

Now rave on, post all you like. I will not be back to respond. There is scripture that talks about this situation, something about pearls.
Paul spoke more against legalism than any other sin, trusting in religious performance to make one right in the presence of God. Calling things sin that are not sin is lying and hindering those that would come in.
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Old 05-18-2008, 10:54 AM
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Re: Charismatic Apostolic

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I have a life thank you. It is a new life in Christ, old things pasted away and ALL things became new. The old carnal man had to die.


There is NO SUCH THINK as a Charismatic Apostolic, you are either one or the other.

God will not use unclean vessels. Where there are those claiming to be spirit fill and living like the world you will not find the anointing of the Holy Ghost.

There was an old prophet (who wasn't a true prophet or he would have prophesied against the altar himself0) Who told a young prophet that he was a prophet too and that the Lord told Him something different. Well the old man LIED, he gave a false word.

these folks that live like the world (women with their bobbed hair, maked up faces, pants and so on) do not have any anointing. There may be a spirit there but it's not the HOLY GHOST.

This is not a Apostolic board at all, but a charismatic one

Now rave on, post all you like. I will not be back to respond. There is scripture that talks about this situation, something about pearls.
The problem with this is once past the issues you mentioned I have found little difference in the spirituality of Charismatics and Apostolics. And again these terms are not Bible terms for names of the followers of Jesus.

Strictness in itself does not equal holiness.
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Old 05-18-2008, 11:16 AM
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The problem with this is once past the issues you mentioned I have found little difference in the spirituality of Charismatics and Apostolics. And again these terms are not Bible terms for names of the followers of Jesus.

Strictness in itself does not equal holiness.
Excellent point.
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