Charismatic Apostolic - Page 18

jaxfam6 · #**171** 05-18-2008, 04:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

the term charismatic usually is applied to those we don´t like...the church across town....up the street...

Oh sister, you hit the nail on the head there.

b-t-w
I usued you as an example of why I believe in Women Apostles, Prophets, Teachers, etc....
The person I was talking to was not familiar with many women in these positions and yet knew your name instantly when I spoke it and now has, hopefully a different view than before. Love you sister, keep on keeping on.

jaxfam6 · #**172** 05-18-2008, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

Well dear one... I am just a down to earth person...
I heard a preacher from the ACI tell how worldly a preacher was from the WWPF...they happen to pastor close to each other!

Is that what they changed the AMF too?

Sister Alvear · #**173** 05-18-2008, 05:48 PM

People are funny...unless we fit into their little world they decide there must be something terrible wrong with us...
I wonder whose world Jesus would have fit into? He kinda run with the nobodies...talked to the women, had time for the children, grew a beard, wore sandels and even ate with the sinners...He did a miracle at a drunken(?) wedding feast and I am sure he danced with them as it was the custom of all Jewish men of His day...and of all things he did not have a black suit on and a white shirt...

He must have been a member of Sherri´s church or Mow´s....

Ha...ha...Sherri where are you?

anapko · #**174** 05-18-2008, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

I completely agree with you!

However, for someone to say that because women have cut hair there's no MOVE of God at all in those services isn't a conviction. That's just wrong!

You go Renda!!!

Rhoni · #**175** 05-18-2008, 06:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Sister Alvear

People are funny...unless we fit into their little world they decide there must be something terrible wrong with us...
I wonder whose world Jesus would have fit into? He kinda run with the nobodies...talked to the women, had time for the children, grew a beard, wore sandels and even ate with the sinners...He did a miracle at a drunken(?) wedding feast and I am sure he danced with them as it was the custom of all Jewish men of His day...and of all things he did not have a black suit on and a white shirt...

He must have been a member of Sherri´s church or Mow´s....

Ha...ha...Sherri where are you?

I saw HIM in my church also.

Rhoni · #**176** 05-18-2008, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Stephen Hoover

WH, It's is posts like this that make folks wonder about the real Wholehearted. The arrogance of thinking God only works within man's framework is incredible!

I understand your desire to bolster the conservative cause among Oneness Pentecostals, but somehow the case has to be made without casting all who diverge from your "high standards" as swine.

The venom you spew in posts such as this produces nothing more than self destruction.

When our message goes from "a rising tide lifts all boats" to "I am captain of the only boat" we cease having a viable ministry.

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Originally Posted by Whole Hearted

I have a life thank you. It is a new life in Christ, old things pasted away and ALL things became new. The old carnal man had to die.

There is NO SUCH THINK as a Charismatic Apostolic, you are either one or the other.

God will not use unclean vessels. Where there are those claiming to be spirit fill and living like the world you will not find the anointing of the Holy Ghost.

There was an old prophet (who wasn't a true prophet or he would have prophesied against the altar himself0) Who told a young prophet that he was a prophet too and that the Lord told Him something different. Well the old man LIED, he gave a false word.

these folks that live like the world (women with their bobbed hair, maked up faces, pants and so on) do not have any anointing. There may be a spirit there but it's not the HOLY GHOST.

This is not a Apostolic board at all, but a charismatic one

Now rave on, post all you like. I will not be back to respond. There is scripture that talks about this situation, something about pearls.

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

I think I would be very careful about making statements like this. If it IS the Holy Ghost, you just spoke against it......and that's not a position I would want to be in.

But, then again, I know you won't receive this........

When I hear and see statements such as this one from Wholehearted...it almost makes me ashamed that I was every identified with such a group. Why would anyone want what you have, be like you are, or desire to be a part of what you are a part of.

Makes me think of the whited sepluchres, the pharisees, and land that was covered in dead frogs until it stunk...

crakjak · #**177** 05-18-2008, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Michael The Disciple

We are to be like Jesus but we are not him.

We will be greatly afraid on judgment day if we are not as he is.

17: Herein is our love made perfect, that we may have boldness in the day of judgment: because as he is, so are we in this world. 1 John 4:17

1 John 3:2
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is.

We will not finally be just like Him until we 'see' Him.

Sept5SavedTeen · #**178** 05-18-2008, 06:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Dedicated Mind

Does allowing hair cutting and jewelery affect the move of the holy spirit in a local congregation, your personal annointing or your personal relationship with God?

Nope.

GOD BLESS!
Bro. Alex

Sister Alvear · #**179** 05-18-2008, 07:09 PM

well, now on the serious side. I think it is wrong to judge others. I like to tease but I do know there is a serious side of life. Today we had a wonderful service. I seldom preach but Brother Alvear asked me to speak today. I spoke on bitterness and unforgiveness. I read a story to our people and I will paste here.

Corrie was a Christian woman and had been invited to speak at a conference in Portland Oregon. This is what she said,
"My name is Corrie ten Boom and I am a murderer." There was total silence. "You see, when I was in prison camp I saw the same guard day in and day out. He was the one who mocked and sneered at us when we were stripped naked and taken into the showers. He spat on us in contempt, and I hated him. I hated him with every fiber of my being. And Jesus says when you hate someone you are guilty of murder."
"When we were freed, I left Germany vowing never to return," Corrie ten Boom continued. "But I was invited back there to speak. I didn't want to go but I felt the Lord nudging me to. Very reluctantly I went. My first talk was on forgiveness. Suddenly, as I was speaking, I saw to my horror that same prison guard sitting in the audience. There was no way that he would have recognized me. But I could never forget his face, never. It was clear to me from the radiant look on his face while I spoke, that he had been converted since I saw him last. After I finished speaking he came up and said with a beaming smile, 'Ah, dear sister Corrie, isn't it wonderful how God forgives?" And he extended his hand for me to shake.
"All I felt as I looked at him was hate. I said to the Lord silently, "There is nothing in me that could ever love that man. I hate him for what he did to me and to my family. But you tell us that we are to love our enemies. That's impossible for me, but nothing is impossible for you. So if you expect me to love this man it's going to have to come from you, because all I feel is hate."
She went on to say that at that moment she felt nudged to do only one thing: "Put out your hand, Corrie," the Lord seemed to say. Then she said, "It took all of the years that I had quietly obeyed God in obscurity to do the hardest thing I have ever done in my life. I put out my hand." Then, she said, something remarkable happened. "It was only after my simple act of obedience that I felt something almost like warm oil was being poured over me. And with it came the unmistakable message: 'Well done, Corrie. That's how my children behave.' And the hate in my heart was absorbed and gone. And so one murderer embraced another murderer, but in the love of Christ." [Hope Has It's Reasons p. 189, 190]

Sister Alvear · #**180** 05-18-2008, 07:15 PM

and then I told our people unforgivness is like gangrene. (Gangrene is not a disease but the end result of gradual tissue loss, resulting in progressive decay or necrosis (tissue death from suffocation) of part of a limb due to insufficient, or cut off, oxygen-rich and nutrient-dense blood supply.)
Unfaithfulness is wrong. Revenge is bad. But the worst part of all is that, without forgiveness, bitterness is all that is left.
If we are not careful we become to holy for heaven...and we judge others and our spirits become hard and bitter and we begin to think we are the only ones that will walk through the pearly gates...how wrong we are!

"In the final analysis, forgiveness is an act of faith. By forgiving another, I am trusting that God is a better justice-maker than I am. By forgiving, I release my own right to get even and leave all issues of fairness for God to work out. I leave in God's hands the scales that must balance justice and mercy." [Yancey p.83]