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Originally Posted by Baron1710
Because Democrats who tell you they will kill they babies are so much better. Oh, wait they just give womean a "choice" they don't kill anyone.
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I come from a pretty Democratic extended family. None of my relatives has ever had an abortion. None of my relatives has ever indicated that they would have an abortion. In fact most in my family, though they are Democrats, believe that life is sacred and that women should choose life. They break with Republicans because at the end of the day they believe that the government isn’t qualified to essentially seize a woman’s body and force her to give birth, so they feel “choice” is the best policy. Everyone of my relatives support measures to reduce the abortion rate by relieving women caught in poverty, abuse, and in the need of health insurance. Since I know these people and love these people I find it VERY insulting and small minded to claim that Democrats “kill babies”.
Let’s compare this to gun rights. Do gun companies kill people? Does the NRA kill people? Should we blame the RNC, IRA, or gun companies for the deaths of those killed by guns? No. People kill people. You can support the right to own a gun and not support using that weapon irresponsibly. Same with abortion, many Democrats support the idea that abortion should be strictly a woman’s choice…but they don’t support the idea of using that choice irresponsibly. For example I believe that abortion is ALWAYS wrong, even if a woman’s life is in danger. I personally believe that the woman should trust God and that she’s unjustified to kill a baby to merely to preserve her own life. A Godly woman will die before killing her baby. But while I believe that, I’d never advocate that the government should force women to have their babies even if their lives are in danger; that choice should belong to the woman after counsel from her husband, family, and pastor.
I saw a pastor “wimp out” while preaching about Christian worldview. He spent half his sermon blasting liberal worldviews and assailing on the sanctity of life. It really was a very passionate and powerful sermon that brought strong conviction. He called the political liberals of our nation “murderers” who will face the “wrath of God”. BUT he then he stopped and said, “I want to stop here. I want to tell any woman in this sanctuary who may have had an abortion that, in this place, you can have that sin forgiven and God can make all things new.” Um….hello?! If you or I had just mercilessly chose to KILL our children I highly doubt that pastor would soft peddle the issue! Here’s the deal, many women pay tithes. He’ll call political liberals murderers who deserve the wrath of God…but then pet and coddle a woman who may have chosen to MURDER her unborn child and suck it down a drain! I was disgusted!
Women who choose abortion are far more abominable in God’s eyes than any politician. I don’t believe women who have procured an abortion should serve in church leadership positions. I wouldn’t support ordaining a man who was divorced nor would I support granting a license to any woman who had procured an abortion. Here’s the issue I have with political “Christian Conservatives”…our love of life is too often restricted to the POLITICAL SPHERE and we’re too wimpy and limp wristed to enforce our life ethics IN THE CHURCH. I’ll be honest, I’m not even sure if a woman who has procured an abortion can be saved. Jesus said,
Matthew 18:1-6
{18:1} At the same time came the disciples unto Jesus,
saying, Who is the greatest in the kingdom of heaven?
{18:2} And Jesus called a little child unto him, and set him
in the midst of them, {18:3} And said, Verily I say unto
you, Except ye be converted, and become as little children,
ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven. {18:4}
Whosoever therefore shall humble himself as this little
child, the same is greatest in the kingdom of heaven. {18:5}
And whoso shall receive one such little child in my name
receiveth me. {18:6} But whoso shall offend one of these
little ones which believe in me, it were better for him that a
millstone were hanged about his neck, and [that] he were
drowned in the depth of the sea.
Friend, that makes abortion sound like a pretty SERIOUS sin. Even if a woman can receive forgiveness after an abortion I’m confident that she shouldn’t be permitted to serve in leadership nor should she ever be licensed. She’s a
murderer. And I believe that though she might go to Heaven she will face STRONG judgment and rebuke before the Judgment Seat of Christ…. and she may even loose a significant measure of her eternal reward.
I once had a woman talk to me about her abortion. I was sickened. She cried and I prayed with her. But friend, I told her point blank that she has blood on her hands and that even if God forgives her she will face unbelievable sorrow for the sin she had committed.
Now tell me…would you agree with this? Or would you “soft ball” and wimp out with a woman who committed this sin and only use this as some cheap political ploy like most Republicans?!
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