Could You Spot Jezebel in Your Church? - Page 16

Pressing-On · #**151** 06-03-2008, 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

Maybe this is the disconnect - - not sure the opinions on a forum are trying to define your life. They are just opinions just as your opinions are yours.

They are personal convictions, but discussing them doesn't take that away.

I learn something from each discussion we have around - - might just be the intolerance of some, but I learn something.

Thank you for your post. I have some things I was going to say, but I think I'll refrain. After all, it's all been said.

Michael Phelps · #**152** 06-03-2008, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I apologize to you.

I'm not going to discuss this because the conversation always spirals back down to - the dress or pants issue.

It goes much deeper than that and it gets lost every time. I don't have the time, temperament or inclination to become involved in it anymore.

I'm sure you understand where I am coming from when I asked you about your belief on Acts 2:38. You said you were not going to discuss that on the open forum.

So, I feel the same way about this issue. It gets misunderstood every time and I just get aggravated - obviously.

PO, I respect your right to decline the discussion.

I was just curious as to what you meant when you said "Have you read Timothy lately"?

Usually when someone says that, they have a point they want to discuss, but if you choose not to discuss it any further, I'll honor that.

My point still remains - holiness and outward standards are not mutually inclusive, and while I respect someone who holds an outward standard of dress (and I don't mean just being modest) I always want to keep it in the forefront of the discussion that there is a difference in "standards and holiness.

Just stating my point for the record, lol.

Rico · #**153** 06-03-2008, 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

I think that we always need to keep in mind that God is building us - His church- continually.

Amen. People forget that Jesus said, "Upon this rock I will build my church. They think it's their job to build it.

As each individual is unique and has a responsibility to answer whatever deep call God has placed on them. All the while knowing that He is not a respecter of persons, keeping us from becoming high minded.

True. With the exception of the "entrance requirements" I don't believe God is aiming for cookie cutter Christianity. I've been thinking about cloven tongues lately, how each individual person receives the Holy Ghost for themselves, to shape them individually. While I believe the fullness of the measure of the stature of Christ is the goal for all of us, how we get there is an individual journey.

We don't know where He will lead us in one year, two, five, ten. We have to be reaching, personally, for the mark of the high calling of Christ.

For me, I can't get my life defined by opinions on a Forum Board or even an individual at church. I must be lead by the Spirit.

I agree. Maybe at times you feel as if your definitions are being challenged by the opinions on these forums? Maybe things you felt are set in stone are sometimes rattled by the things you read?

We can't draw a line in the sand either way and say - This is the way we should walk on this issue. It will always be personal convictions.

That's all I am trying to say.

Personal conviction is the only way to go on stuff like this.

Steve Epley · #**154** 06-03-2008, 02:44 PM

MOst churches are filled with Jezebels were are talking about painted faced women ain't we?

revrandy · #**155** 06-03-2008, 02:45 PM

The Jezebel spirit is not often recognized outwardly....

Rico · #**156** 06-03-2008, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

MOst churches are filled with Jezebels were are talking about painted faced women ain't we?

This video shows a woman being delivered from being a Jezebel.

Michael Phelps · #**157** 06-03-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by revrandy

The Jezebel spirit is not often recognized outwardly....

This is the absolute truth, my friend.

Without giving too much away, the woman who gave me the most trouble when I was pastoring had actually written some books on "holiness".

Pressing-On · #**158** 06-03-2008, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

Personal conviction is the only way to go on stuff like this.

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Maybe at times you feel as if your definitions are being challenged by the opinions on these forums? Maybe things you felt are set in stone are sometimes rattled by the things you read?

Not really challenged. But I will be very pointed.

I see some as holding standards and those that are against them failing God miserably and so neither person was the example of what God really wanted.

I hope you understand what I am saying.

Rico · #**159** 06-03-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Not really challenged. But I will be very pointed.

I see some as holding standards and those that are against them failing God miserably and so neither person was the example of what God really wanted.

I hope you understand what I am saying.

Yes. The message gets lost in the delivery.

Michael Phelps · #**160** 06-03-2008, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Pressing-On

Not really challenged. But I will be very pointed.

I see some as holding standards and those that are against them failing God miserably and so neither person was the example of what God really wanted.
I hope you understand what I am saying.

I don't understand this statement.......could you please clarify?