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Old 03-21-2007, 10:47 PM
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Even I can't have all the answers.
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Old 03-21-2007, 10:51 PM
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WNT, I have seen documentaries about those kinds of people and it's not a good life. They don't fit in with either sex....because they are neither and they are both. Their looks are strange....they don't look like either sex most of the time. There are mannish looking women and pretty looking men. For those people who's parents made the wrong decision, it's horrible feeling that you are a man but you have female body parts, and vice versa.

I can't imagine, knowing what I know as a woman, to find out that the reason I feel like a man is because my parents wanted a girl, and I happened to be both, so they cut off what wasn't wanted.

They don't do that anymore. They usually will wait until the child is starting adolescence so they can make a decision. Even still, how does one raise a child to be either sex or both sexes until they make up their mind? How does God view those people, even in sexual relationships?

This is one of my many "When I get to heaven, I'm going to ask God...." questions.
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:02 PM
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WNT, I have seen documentaries about those kinds of people and it's not a good life. They don't fit in with either sex....because they are neither and they are both. Their looks are strange....they don't look like either sex most of the time. There are mannish looking women and pretty looking men. For those people who's parents made the wrong decision, it's horrible feeling that you are a man but you have female body parts, and vice versa.

I can't imagine, knowing what I know as a woman, to find out that the reason I feel like a man is because my parents wanted a girl, and I happened to be both, so they cut off what wasn't wanted.

They don't do that anymore. They usually will wait until the child is starting adolescence so they can make a decision. Even still, how does one raise a child to be either sex or both sexes until they make up their mind? How does God view those people, even in sexual relationships?

This is one of my many "When I get to heaven, I'm going to ask God...." questions.
Someone wrote to the 700 Club and asked Pat Robertson about this. Their letter said something like this:
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I am both male and female. I was born looking like a male, but I have only female chromosomes, and lots of estrogen's and very little testosterone. I feel and think female, but I am also a male. What about this?
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Those with both sexes have the best of both worlds. They can relate to men and they can relate to women. It is a gift that very few can understand - understanding both sexes.
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Old 03-21-2007, 11:07 PM
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Someone wrote to the 700 Club and asked Pat Robertson about this. Their letter said something like this:

Pat replied something like this:

Food for thought.
Interesting.
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Old 03-22-2007, 06:31 AM
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Thing is, this is what could have happened to the 'woman' Felicity saw today!
That's sort of what I was thinking but it seems if you seem a little "soft" in denouncing people you get called a compromiser or worse.

I'm not trying to make excuses for someone just trying not to be too reactionary.
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I think most of the posts on this thread a bit ridiculous and insulting. There has to be a better way of addressing this issue.
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Just waited on another very masculine looking woman .... including moustache, short hair, etc. She walks like a man, built kind of like a man.

Why do these women turn me off so bad?! I can hardly stand to look at them. I don't mean to be unloving or unkind, but I just go when I come in contact with some of these women!
Understand completely!!! It really gets to me also...But it also makes me cringe when I come in contact with a very swishy, limpwristed man, who sways and swings his hips and puts his hands on his hips when he's talking.... I can't stand it. My first impressions are , "ugh, sick" but then my heart really goes out for them because it is truly, truly sad...... I have a family member who , even when she was little, she tried her best to act and be like a guy. She had no motherly influence. Her dad just thought it would pass. I mean, she took the razor and shaved the top of her head to make it look like she had a receeding hair line. and she was just 9 then! lol. She needed a mother to teach her what a lady was supposed to be and she needed a daddy to teach her also! The problem was that, she never outgrew those so called "silly actions" and the family just overlooked it. Yep, she likes girls.... I can't stand it and she isn't even the same person she was when we were growing up....
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Well. Forgive my lack of sympathy...LOL!!!!

Got facial hair? Hello wax strips!

Walk like a man? Put on a pair of feminine heels and just try to keep that manly strut goin' while you are 4 inches off the ground.

Dress like a man? Put on a dress. Make sure it's made out of something soft, lacy, fluffy, silky or satiny.

Can't grow long hair? Tie a ribbon or scarf around your head. I'd be willing to wager the difference will be obvious.

Have bushy eyebrows? Learn how to use a pair of tweezers.

Hair on your ears? Hello wax strips again.

Have manly BO? Take baths twice a day and use deoderant regularly. Goodness, shower after every meal if that's what it takes.

Hairly legs? SHAVE them. (GASP--what a novel idea)



COME on...I can understand that not all women are born with an hourglass figure and are naturally hairless, or have long, gorgeous, wavy tresses...but you can look feminine if you WANT to look feminine, and you can act feminine if you WANT to.

Huh-uh. I don't buy it. I do not buy the idea that a person can't help but be masculine. You take the most shapeless woman and put her in heels and a pretty dress, and she will look like a woman in spite of herself.
I agree, which is why I was saying earlier - it can be helped! Yes, it takes extra work but it can be done.
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A good report:

One person, similar to the one Felicity came in contact with at work came into our church. After approx. 18 months of attending service she approached me about helping her pick out clothes that were more feminine and modest. I had the privilege of seeing her transformed by the power of God in her life. She rarely missed a prayer meeting or a service...she wanted the change as God spoke it into her life.

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If someone were living in sin and wanted to wallow there then that would be "disgusting" to me. But if someone doesn't have understanding and is surrounded by an environment that teaches them wronglyly or encourages the behaviour then I would not be repulsed by them. I think the repulsion is more an emotional reaction that a spiritual one. Similar to some people being repulsed by extremely obese people.

You know that fat people only have to "try harder" and not eat so much ... it's a sin to be gluttonous..
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