lol you guys are great. of course it is essential! Didnt Jesus Himself say that unless a man be born of the WATER and of the SPIRIT he cannot enter the kingdom of heaven? and didnt Peter confirm that by saying repent and be baptized everyone of you in the name of Jesus for the remission on your sins and you shall recieve the gift of the Holy Ghost? we have no assurance of tomorrow. if baptism is truly necessary (and it is) then in needs to be done today! dont wait!
YES!
errr
uhm...
uh..
unless you belive that Jesus was talking about natural birth and spiritual birth instead of being born of water (baptism) and spirit (infilling of the HG)
and so long as you think that the word "for" in Acts 2:38 means because of instead of "for".....
well uhm.. yea.
__________________ If I do something stupid blame the Lortab!
unless you belive that Jesus was talking about natural birth and spiritual birth instead of being born of water (baptism) and spirit (infilling of the HG)
and so long as you think that the word "for" in Acts 2:38 means because of instead of "for".....
well uhm.. yea.
Uh oh, the unless's have begun. I'm still tired from that thread last week to jump back in. You all get to know your neighbors and have fun though.
Simply put, if a person receives Christ, repents and is filled with the Holy Spirit on a Sunday evening and decides to wait until Wednesday evening to be baptized for whatever reason, yet dies on Monday evening, without be water baptized, is he/she saved or lost and why?
What time in the evening did he die? What was the time and date? What was he wearing at the time?
Simply put, if a person receives Christ, repents and is filled with the Holy Spirit on a Sunday evening and decides to wait until Wednesday evening to be baptized for whatever reason, yet dies on Monday evening, without be water baptized, is he/she saved or lost and why?
Three easy steps necessary for salvation.
1. No nose, ear, hair.- eyebrows no longer that 1/4 centimeter. --Must be verified by at least a pastor or Sunday School Superintendent using the international metric measurements system.
2. No yellow teeth allowed. Coffee and Tea drinkers, it is suggested you have immediate teeth whitening. Your shade of white is measured by standard dental charts and must be at least two shades whiter than the standard median tone.
3. Every event you plan to attend and every habit you have (including consumption of your favorite snacks--especially those high in sugar--) must be pre approved by the deacon board. Applications must be submitted at least two weeks prior to the event and must be signed by all parties and notarized by a legal authority. Any deviations to this policy will immediately suspend your rights as a Christian and doom your soul to hell. If you decide to repent--crawling in the front door of church while wearing burlap and ashes will not be accepted (unless accompanied by $1000 donation). Those seeking restoration must submit the standard repentance form approved by the deacon board, applications are considered on the first Sunday of each five Sunday month.
Any questions regarding our salvation policy please direct to the pastor the week following his annual vacation. (His vacation application is still pending with the board. There will be a meeting soon to address the possibility of a meeting to approve this action).
All other salvation requests should be directed to the General Secretary who will forward to the quarterly board meeting of the general council. Their decision is final and cannot be questioned.
some of us believe that you are not saved without baptism in the name of Jesus. period.
some of us believe that Baptism is a profession of faith in Christ, and is a public statment of the salvation recieved at repentance.
others believe that a person who comes to christ, recieves the HG but dies before being baptized would be saved but if they refused baptism they would not be saved.
in all the above cases some of us believe that Jesus name baptism is the ONLY effectual form of baptism, some of us believe Jesus name baptism is "more biblical" but do not believe that it is exclusive.
Others believe that baptism in either Jesus name or the titles are on equal footing.
Did I leave anything out?
Yes. Some believe that you must be baptized "in the name of the Lord Jesus", others "in the name of Jesus" and still others "in the name of Jesus Christ". Or pick your combination. Some will be adamant that to be baptized in ANY other way is a one-way ticket to hell.
Yes. Some believe that you must be baptized "in the name of the Lord Jesus", others "in the name of Jesus" and still others "in the name of Jesus Christ". Or pick your combination. Some will be adamant that to be baptized in ANY other way is a one-way ticket to hell.
I baptize you in the name the Father Son and Holy Ghost, the name of Jesus, our Lord Jesus Christ, in the name of Jesus Christ.
Simply put, if a person receives Christ, repents and is filled with the Holy Spirit on a Sunday evening and decides to wait until Wednesday evening to be baptized for whatever reason, yet dies on Monday evening, without be water baptized, is he/she saved or lost and why?
They have not been born again of the water. And the bible says ye must be. Thats my understanding, and according to my teachings. I do believe though.. they will fall into the hands of a merciful God, and its not my job to put anybody in hell. Especially when they are making strides towards God.
__________________
There is a conspiracy of silence in the land.
Simply put, if a person receives Christ, repents and is filled with the Holy Spirit on a Sunday evening and decides to wait until Wednesday evening to be baptized for whatever reason, yet dies on Monday evening, without be water baptized, is he/she saved or lost and why?
I am so glad I am not God and have to judge that issue.
In the specific situation you have presented, I BELIEVE that person would indeed be saved as we are all only saved by the grace and mercy of God in the first place.
Let me also state that, through scripture, the believer's faith that brings salvation will be validated by what they do. If one really believes, then why wouldn't he/she OBEY the Gospel?
__________________
"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Linear Mode
