Is Water Baptism Necessary For Salvation? - Page 3

Rico · #21 07-07-2008, 06:19 PM

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Originally Posted by AbundantGrace

Simply put, if a person receives Christ, repents and is filled with the Holy Spirit on a Sunday evening and decides to wait until Wednesday evening to be baptized for whatever reason, yet dies on Monday evening, without be water baptized, is he/she saved or lost and why?

AG, this is one of them tricky questions. I've always felt that there's room for the possibility of someone being saved without having been baptized in Jesus name and receiving the HG, but in my opinion those instances would be very limited in scope.

TRFrance · #22 07-07-2008, 06:21 PM

Same song... different beat.

Rico · #23 07-07-2008, 06:22 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Same song... different beat.

Maybe this is the Southern Rock version. I happen to like Southern Rock!

RevDWW · #24 07-07-2008, 06:31 PM

How often has this really, verifiable, happened? Could the Lord be powerful enough to keep someone from dying that wanted to be baptized and had made plans to be baptized?

If one knows they should be baptized, why wait? I can't recall one instance in the Book of Acts where they put off baptizing anyone for a few days. Am I wrong about that?

The real question everyone has to ask themselves is "what hinders me from rising up and being baptized calling on the name of the Lord"?

Rico · #25 07-07-2008, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

How often has this really, verifiable, happened? Could the Lord be powerful enough to keep someone from dieing that wanted to be baptized and had made plans to be baptized?

If one knows they should be baptized, why wait? I can't recall one instance in the Book of Acts where they put of baptizing anyone for a few days. Am I wrong about that?

I've seen instances when baptism was delayed for this reason or that, through no fault of the person wanting to get baptized.

NLYP · #26 07-07-2008, 06:34 PM

YOU ARE NOT SAVED WITHOUT BAPTISM IN JESUS NAME!

PERIOD!

As to the question in the opening post?
I am NOT God...

RevDWW · #27 07-07-2008, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rico

I've seen instances when baptism was delayed for this reason or that, through no fault of the person wanting to get baptized.

I didn't say it doesn't happen. I just think if one is desperate enough they'd insist on it right away. If a minister thinks it is vital, why would he tell someone "Let's do this later"?

All the hypothetical questions in the world does not absolve an individual from obeying the word.

Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

Rico · #28 07-07-2008, 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by RevDWW

I didn't say it doesn't happen. I just think if one is desperate enough they'd insist on it right away. If a minister thinks it is vital, why would he tell someone "Let's do this later"?

All the hypothetical questions in the world does not absolve an individual from obeying the word.

Act 8:36 And as they went on their way, they came unto a certain water: and the eunuch said, See, here is water; what doth hinder me to be baptized?

You are assuming there is always a readily available means to get someone baptized. I know what you are saying, but sometimes circumstances just get in the way. Say, for example, it's the middle of January. Heading on down to the River is out of the question because it's 20 below zero. It's 11:30 on Sunday night and y'all had a blowout service. A sinner makes his way to the altar during the altar call. He wants to get baptized, but there's no water in the baptistry because the line sprung a leak and they haven't been fixed yet. The pastor says to wait until he can either get the baptisty fixed or find somewhere to perform the baptism. Brother New Convert leaves and dies from an unexpected heart attack or in a car wreck that night. Does he get into Heaven? My feeling is he would, but that's one of them tricky judgement calls only God should make.

OneAccord · #29 07-07-2008, 06:49 PM

For some odd reason, the old Sonny and Cher song "And the beat goes on" went through my head as I scanned.... briefly scanned... through this thread.

The beat goes on, the beat goes on
Drums keep pounding a rhythm to the brain
La de da de dee, la de da de da

Sherri · #30 07-07-2008, 07:56 PM

Sometimes our pastors in Africa only get to baptize a few times a year and they will baptize many at one time. They do not live close to a body of water and they have to save money to rent a pool at a hotel. They can't just do that every week, so they wait until they have several to baptize. I don't believe that God would judge these people waiting to be baptized!

I think you are in danger when you reject baptism or the Holy Ghost, but not before then, if you are truly seeking God. JMHO!