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Old 07-15-2008, 09:35 AM
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I will be honest here, I have heard both what Auquila and MrsBratt have posted.

Now having the backing of the Mayo Clinic gives some heft to that argument, but the French paradox remains in my mind.

The French Paradox is that the French eat a high calorie, high fat, high cholesterol diet and have less obesity, less heart disease and less cancer than Americans.

the main difference is consumption of wine.

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I agree, there may be some merit to the fermentation process making a difference--however, it also can be an overall approach of moderation, which applies to both the wine and the food--an approach which the United States is sorely lacking.



The French usually drink in moderation...right.
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I agree, there may be some merit to the fermentation process making a difference--however, it also can be an overall approach of moderation, which applies to both the wine and the food--an approach which the United States is sorely lacking.
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The French usually drink in moderation...right.
Yikes! Look at this take on the "French Paradox":

"...The French drink one-and-a-half times more per capita than Americans and their death rate from liver cirrhosis is more than one-and-a-half times greater than that in the United States. According to WHO, France has the sixth highest adult per capita alcohol consumption in the world. (The U.S. ranks 32nd.) Alcohol may be involved in nearly half of the deaths from road accidents, half of all homicides, and one-quarter of suicides, according to the French equivalent of the U.S. Institutes of Health. And while coronary heart disease may be less pervasive in that country of 60 million people than in many others, it is still the number one cause of death...."

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Great! Now we have Muskrat and Super Chicken!!
Watch it! LOL!
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Yikes! Look at this take on the "French Paradox":

"...The French drink one-and-a-half times more per capita than Americans and their death rate from liver cirrhosis is more than one-and-a-half times greater than that in the United States. According to WHO, France has the sixth highest adult per capita alcohol consumption in the world. (The U.S. ranks 32nd.) Alcohol may be involved in nearly half of the deaths from road accidents, half of all homicides, and one-quarter of suicides, according to the French equivalent of the U.S. Institutes of Health. And while coronary heart disease may be less pervasive in that country of 60 million people than in many others, it is still the number one cause of death...."

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Interesting. I certainly am not condoning sinning (which would be any time a person gets drunk for sure).

and the french clearly have higher levels of these, but they also have a longer life expectancy.
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My doctor advised against grape juices. They are EXTREMELY high in sugar and to gain the antioxidant benefit of wine from grape juice would require drinking nearly 5 glasses in one sitting. My doctor said it would cause me to gain weight and she also said, "And then you'd also be confronted with sugar issues." Compare grape juices with soda pop...you might as well load up on pop.

Wine in moderation is good for you. Overall, most alcohol in moderation can even moderate cholestoral. My weight, blood pressure, and numbers were real bad. I lost the weight by changing diet. This also relieved me of my blood pressure issues. But my numbers were still really bad. She told me I could drink wine and get plenty of omega-3s to help this. Guess what, after 4 months of this my numbers were back in line where they should be. I'm still a little overweight, but she said other than that I'm now in very good health.

It's not for everyone. But I'm doing far better now. No meds, pills, or prescriptions. Just some holistic health advice based on ancient practices of health and celebrating life.
What you did is fine. Also pure grape juice in nowhere near the same a soda. Don't believe that trash for a second. Today's doctors compare apples with rocks half the time. Yes your candy style grape juice for the most part is decent but not great. I am talking fresh juice and any doctor that would compare that to soda for anything should.... well I will be nice. Least to say I am not a fan of most doctors as they are protocol idiots and don't study anything outside of "pharm america"!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Yikes! Look at this take on the "French Paradox":

"...The French drink one-and-a-half times more per capita than Americans and their death rate from liver cirrhosis is more than one-and-a-half times greater than that in the United States. According to WHO, France has the sixth highest adult per capita alcohol consumption in the world. (The U.S. ranks 32nd.) Alcohol may be involved in nearly half of the deaths from road accidents, half of all homicides, and one-quarter of suicides, according to the French equivalent of the U.S. Institutes of Health. And while coronary heart disease may be less pervasive in that country of 60 million people than in many others, it is still the number one cause of death...."

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Don't forget the Marin Institute is very anti-alcohol so there is a bit of bias here, and they want to force their views on people through increased legislation and regulations.
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The Marin Institute fights to protect the public from the impact of the alcohol industry’s negative practices. We monitor and expose the alcohol industry’s harmful actions related to products, promotions and social influence, and support communities in their efforts to reject these damaging activities.

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