yes we have, and it aint ever enough for the controlling people who want to legislate our lives to us, i drive a suburban, 4 yrs now, always wanted one, love it, 20 hwy, 14 city, sometimes i think of trading but nah, lol
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We now have V8 engines that get 25 mpg like my wifes Lincoln Town Car when thirty years ago that same size engine / car got about 8-9 mpg.
That is about 3 times the gas mileage of thirty years ago with much more reliability, comfort, ease of maintenance, etc.
Yes, but it is all with the same fuel technology that I could run a Model T off of. I don't think that it is a stretch to consider that since this is perhaps the single most profitable industry in the world, and entire economies are constructed on it, there may be a vigilant desire to keep that part the status quo.
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We now have V8 engines that get 25 mpg like my wifes Lincoln Town Car when thirty years ago that same size engine / car got about 8-9 mpg.
That is about 3 times the gas mileage of thirty years ago with much more reliability, comfort, ease of maintenance, etc.
I can't say I agree with you on this, CC1. The V-8 in your wife's car is a very small V-8, comparable with the 289 Ford produced back in the late 60s. Those smaller V-8s got around 20-22 miles per gallon. It wasn't until the government started sticking their big nose in how manufacturers build their cars that gas mileage started going way down. A 70s era 302 still got around 17 mpg. The engines used in the Lincolns of that time frame were big V-8s, like the 460 and 400. Those larger V-8 engines were horrible on gas and still are. I could buy a brand new 3/4 ton truck, with a big V-8 and I wouldn't get much more than around 15 mpg out of it. The older 3/4 ton trucks got around 12 or so. The real advances have been in getting more power out of a smaller engine. That's why that 4.6 liter V-8 will propel that Lincoln of hers off the line and down the road much faster than the same size engine would have done in a comparably sized Crown Vic from 30 years ago.
yes we have, and it aint ever enough for the controlling people who want to legislate our lives to us, i drive a suburban, 4 yrs now, always wanted one, love it, 20 hwy, 14 city, sometimes i think of trading but nah, lol
I would love to have a Suburban myself. They are the perfect family vehicle, after a full sized van.
Yes, but it is all with the same fuel technology that I could run a Model T off of. I don't think that it is a stretch to consider that since this is perhaps the single most profitable industry in the world, and entire economies are constructed on it, there may be a vigilant desire to keep that part the status quo.
Are you also as upset that you still light your home with the same electricity that was conceived over 100 years ago?
Are you knocking the power companies for not finding something better than electricity?
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"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
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I can't say I agree with you on this, CC1. The V-8 in your wife's car is a very small V-8, comparable with the 289 Ford produced back in the late 60s. Those smaller V-8s got around 20-22 miles per gallon. It wasn't until the government started sticking their big nose in how manufacturers build their cars that gas mileage started going way down. A 70s era 302 still got around 17 mpg. The engines used in the Lincolns of that time frame were big V-8s, like the 460 and 400. Those larger V-8 engines were horrible on gas and still are. I could buy a brand new 3/4 ton truck, with a big V-8 and I wouldn't get much more than around 15 mpg out of it. The older 3/4 ton trucks got around 12 or so. The real advances have been in getting more power out of a smaller engine. That's why that 4.6 liter V-8 will propel that Lincoln of hers off the line and down the road much faster than the same size engine would have done in a comparably sized Crown Vic from 30 years ago.
We owned a brand new 1975 Ford Granada with a small V8 and it did not get anywhere near 17 mpg! Neither did our 1968 Plymouth Fury III with a 318 V8.
A new Pontaic G8 with a 6.1 or 6.2 litre V8 has 361 horsepower and gets around 24-25 mpg while a 360 hp muscle car from the 60's or early 60's would get about one third that.
__________________ "I think some people love spiritual bondage just the way some people love physical bondage. It makes them feel secure. In the end though it is not healthy for the one who is lost over it or the one who is lives under the oppression even if by their own choice"
Titus2woman on AFF
"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
I had read this article on Wikipedia that discussed some of the potential advantages and disadvantages. There does seem to be some potential and promise.
I may just be a conspiracy theorist or overly cynical of big business, but I just find it hard to believe that we can make the unbelievable strides in every other area of our lives and technology that we have in the last 100 years...except this one.
Bro, the problem with the internal combustion engine, is that it is very inefficient. the heat loss is extreme. heat is the energy that cannot be converted into a usable form. this is the issue with any internal combustion engine.
You also run into issues with likeability. In the early 80's diesel engines were the rage, but they were loud and produced a lot of smelly exhaust. people didn't buy them even though they were much more efficient.
It wasn't until VW advanced the technology to deal with the noise and exhaust that diesel has again become popular.
Currently there is an X prize competition to produce a 100mpg car. any short look will prove that this is a very difficult thing to do. But it looks like we are now moving in that direction.... but we are only now doing so because it has only been in the last few years that the underlying technologies have advanced enough to be leveraged
Lithium Ion batteries are just now getting close to being viable.
light weight composite material has just gotten to the point where it is strong enough to use for extensive portions of a car without losing safety.
Bottom line here, they guy that can create a car that will comfortably get a family around at 100 mpg, is going to be an instant multi-billionaire. Oil companies cant stop that.
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Are you also as upset that you still light your home with the same electricity that was conceived over 100 years ago?
Are you knocking the power companies for not finding something better than electricity?
... On the subject of electricity.... did you know that there is now talk about restructuring electricity delivery to DC?
DC is vastly more effecient and can be transmitted over long distances. AC cant be transmitted nearly as well.
the problem is, when you are talking about alternative energy, both wind and solar are most available FAR from most centers of population.
we need to rebuild the transmission systems to support DC power. AC will stil be used at the point of service, but DC for collecting and moving it from one place to another.
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