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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps
So, is it a sin to murder someone?
God established cities of refuge on the OT for people to flee to if they killed someone, and as long as they stayed there, they were safe.
Is that how we should operate in 2008?
Come on, Brother, you should be a bit more adept at the Word that this!
Jesus, Himself, taught and said, "Ye have heard that it hath been said, An eye for an eye, and a tooth for a tooth:
39But I say unto you, That ye resist not evil: but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
He also said "Ye have heard that it hath been said, Thou shalt love thy neighbour, and hate thine enemy.
44But I say unto you, Love your enemies, bless them that curse you, do good to them that hate you, and pray for them which despitefully use you, and persecute you;
Now, if you believe that Jesus was God manifest in the flesh, you have to believe that He (God) changed some rules! And, He was still God. And He wasn't a liar. And He didn't vacillate.
So, polygamy WAS accepted and approved in the OT, but I don't find ANY scripture in the NT where God sanctioned multiple wives, only you guys and your misinterpreted sheen of scripture wrapped around your flimsy philosophy.
And, I say that in the nicest possible way!
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You still miss the point he SAID and gave DEEPER meaning to the understanding of God's will. Yet Jesus never said anything about polygamy. In the NT you never fine abolishment of polygamy. Thus you are putting words in his mouth.
Also the reference to hating your enemies is not in the Torah but in rabbinical teaching.
Also your point on Jesus saying concerning Eye for an eye etc... Jesus point was that grace and mercy viewed through love are the greater way. Thus he brought deeper understanding to the people. As Jesus said you neglect the weightier matters of the law. Justice mercy and faith.
Mat 23:23 "Woe to you, scribes and Pharisees, hypocrites! For you tithe mint and dill and cumin, and have neglected the weightier matters of the law: justice and mercy and faithfulness. These you ought to have done, without neglecting the others
Yes, one could take eye for any eye but that was not the whole means by which one should look at the situation but through grace and mercy and love. Jesus himself gives retribution for evil deeds. Things should be done through the eyes of love and mercy and forgiveness as we would want to treat ourselves. The law of retribution still stands but the deeper meaning by how we conduct ourselves is made known through long lasting patience, and mercy. Otherwise retribution could never take place,as Christ himself could not judge as you make judgment impossible and Jesus in the end would contradict his own word. Jesus did not come to abolish but to make the law more revealed or full!