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Old 08-15-2008, 08:35 AM
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Re: No Thanks, I Will Stay Old Time Pentecost

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I preached for a UPC pastor/church last week.

He believes Acts 2:38 is the New Birth of John 3:5.

I do not fellowship men, in an org. or independent, that teach otherwise.
Are we not judged by the company we keep?
The bible says that we are to be of one mind and not to be unequally yoked together. One org. preacher teaches saved at repentance the other save only after obedience to acts 2:38 yet they are yoked together by the liscens in their pocket. They call one another brother.
If you fellowship the one aren't you on a slippery slope? Clearly the man you preached for is yoked to a doctrine that you say is false.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:21 AM
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Re: No Thanks, I Will Stay Old Time Pentecost

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I preached for a UPC pastor/church last week.

He believes Acts 2:38 is the New Birth of John 3:5.

I do not fellowship men, in an org. or independent, that teach otherwise.
So, that's your dividing line?

What about standards?

What if a church preaches Acts 2:38, but they do not preach outward standards? Would you fellowship them?
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:36 AM
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So, that's your dividing line?

What about standards?

What if a church preaches Acts 2:38, but they do not preach outward standards? Would you fellowship them?
I'll bet the answer would be 'no'.......
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:43 AM
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Re: No Thanks, I Will Stay Old Time Pentecost

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If you can't tell the difference between masculine and feminine behaviour, there's nothing anyone can say to convince you that many of these women get in pulpits and emulate men. There are very basic differences in posture, mannerism, and presentation between men and women. I can tell you Biblical preachers such as Paul, John, and Jesus displayed masculine behaviour because they were men, not women or sissified men. If you think there is going to be a scripture that says, "Paul was preaching in a very masculine manner", then you're either blind or being willfully ignorant of the differences between men and women. Either way, I am not going to continue in this vein because it's pointless to try to convince you of anything you aren't willing to believe.
Again you miss the point, but you made mine. Thanks.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:45 AM
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Are we not judged by the company we keep?
The bible says that we are to be of one mind and not to be unequally yoked together. One org. preacher teaches saved at repentance the other save only after obedience to acts 2:38 yet they are yoked together by the liscens in their pocket. They call one another brother.
If you fellowship the one aren't you on a slippery slope? Clearly the man you preached for is yoked to a doctrine that you say is false.
Please Olld Path & Br. Epley I ask the above question again.

Do not Bird of a feather flock together????

If an elephant and a donkey are yoked together can they move in a straight line???
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:49 AM
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Do you know what is absolutely amazing to a fella like me?

(Forty four years in the Church and 35 years in the Ministry)

Many, if not all of you USED to believe (if not just like me, at least similar) that the Apostolic Pentecostal church was the Only Way, but because of "events" and "bad situations" with preachers and churches YOU threw it all away.

Then to make matters worse, rather than seek God, repent or do whatever it takes, you toss it all and deny the truths you once loved and cherished.

Amazing to me that some attend trinitarian churches and churches that are so loose on the basic doctrine that years ago YOU would have been trying to convert the very folks that you are fellowshipping today.

To justify your trip down the slippery slope of compromise, you develop an aggressive attitude toward those that haven't changed their convictions to suit their situation.

So, No Thanks, I Will Stay Old Time Pentecost.

I pray God gives you a space to repent.

Just My Honest Opinion.
NONE of the above has to do with my no longer believing what I used to believe.

Just clarifying.
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Old 08-15-2008, 09:51 AM
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I agree with some of OP's comments. It amazes me as I found out a few days ago that one of my friends goes to a Trinitarian Charismatic church now that only believes one has to say a prayer and believe to be saved. Least to say I got a sick feeling in my stomach. I never would have thought such as he and his wife come from a family well engrained in the church and are very loving people that don't tear people down because of differences. So sad! One thing is they IMO never studied in depth. Just accepted status of what was taught. So that might have been the issue.
This is EXACTLY why I changed my beliefs from what I was taught. I never studied. I was told by the preacher that he didn't need to show where the Bible taught it...he was the pastor, therefore, anything he said was Biblical. I believed it hook, line, and sinker.

Then I got to studying for myself. And here I am.
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:04 AM
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Re: No Thanks, I Will Stay Old Time Pentecost

HO I just read you sig line and thought it appropriate for this thread.

"Surely for a Christian, stooping to someone else's level should only be done to give them a hand up and not to push their head down in the mud!

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IMO--this thread has been very self serving for some. It's not here to uplift, encourage or offer any kind of Christian support. It's only purpose to point at those who disagree with them, laugh and tell them they are going to hell.

I almost get a feeling it's providing some kind of entertainment, "Let's provoke a liberal today and mock them."

Not every conservative has posted this way, some have offered content while some just plain contempt.

Talk about sad, if anything I think sort of attitude is so far from Christ and his purpose for the Church in general- it would come under following another gospel, more than the example of not following standards is following another gospel.

Just my little opinion

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So, that's your dividing line?

What about standards?

What if a church preaches Acts 2:38, but they do not preach outward standards? Would you fellowship them?
I am NOT Old Paths but I will answer for myself there are boundaries of separation that no I will not fellowship with. I would not fellowship with a church that allows their women to cut their hair for example. I would preach for them with the understanding I was at liberty to preach against women cutting their hair. That is one example fire away.
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Old 08-15-2008, 10:14 AM
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Well you guys enjoy whatever I am happy at home. It has been home for 45 years. The preachers nor saints are not perfect and never have been. But it was at that Pentecostal altar I was filled with His Spirit and in that baptismal tank my sins were remitted in Jesus Name. On that Pentecostal I learned Who Jesus Was. I have been healed soul-spirit-body in Pentecostal services.
I have felt like I was going to be translated in Pentecostal services. I have wept until there were no more tears in Pentecostal services. I was encouraged-instructed-corrected in Pentecostal services. I do NOT feel I have missed one beneficial thing I was preached against. I don't miss Hollywood-Sports-or the other worldliness Pentecost preached against. I don't feel cheated because I have worn long sleeves and long pants all my life. I don't miss any jewelry and it has not been a burden to keep my hair short particularly since time has took most of it.
I am Happy with Old Time Pentecost just like it was when I walked through the door.

Great post Elder.
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