No Thanks, I Will Stay Old Time Pentecost - Page 46

Steve Epley · #**451** 08-19-2008, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Light

This is not what Peter said.

Saved at repentance doctrine is a lie from the pits of hell.

Look at the words used.

#1 Repent and be saved can't be found in Peters command.

#2 Peter did not say follow up your salvation with baptism.

#3 Peter did not use the words could recieve the Holy Ghost.

This doctrine is a doctrine from the pits of hell.

No where in the bible can you find anyone that says one is saved at repentance.

Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the name of Jesus Christ for the remission of sins, and ye shall receive the gift of the Holy Ghost.

Those that preached saved at repentance now their decendants don't even preach that. They pray the sinner's prayer-accept Christ as their personal Saviour repentance is a foreign concept to them. Acts 2:38 is the ONLY way a man can be saved from Pentecost until the Church leaves.

Sister Alvear · #**452** 08-19-2008, 10:36 AM

I believe Acts 2:38...and the rest of the Bible...so guess that makes me at least a 100 stepper! love you folks.

Michael Phelps · #**453** 08-19-2008, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Steve Epley

Those that preached saved at repentance now their decendants don't even preach that. They pray the sinner's prayer-accept Christ as their personal Saviour repentance is a foreign concept to them. Acts 2:38 is the ONLY way a man can be saved from Pentecost until the Church leaves.

This post is a contender for the "Broad Brush Award".

Come on, Elder, don't you mean "some"?

mfblume · #**454** 08-19-2008, 10:46 AM

I believe each element mentioned in Acts 2:38 is what Peter referred to in speaking about salvation in Acts 2:40. In order to say "AND WITH MANY OTHER WORDS" Peter exhorted them to "save" themselves from that untoward generation, Peter was including Acts 2:38 as what saves us. The phrase "WITH MANY OTHER WORDS" immediately couples together Acts 2:38-39 with what SAVES us. People can say all they want that each element of Acts 2:38 was not salvation, but we would never read "AND WITH MANY OTHER WORDS did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation" if they weren't part of salvation.

I leave anyone who has not experienced all the elements with the Lord, as He is final judge. But this is what I tell people when they ask how to be saved. THAT is what is in the bible.

Now, things not in the bible are not what I preach, and I deny the idea that the pastor has the right to tell people to do things that are not in the bible, as though they have some sort of dictatorial right over their saints. That is heresy.

LUKE2447 · #**455** 08-19-2008, 11:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Michael Phelps

This post is a contender for the "Broad Brush Award".

Come on, Elder, don't you mean "some"?

sheeeesh and don't you understand "ONLY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If one is not baptized one CANNOT be saved in the NT church. How can you be united with him if you are not baptized! As baptism is where you are united with the BLOOD of Christ Romans 6!

Sister Alvear · #**456** 08-19-2008, 11:30 AM

I think most know what I believe...

#**457** 08-19-2008, 11:39 AM

I know what your saying but i think god really only judges what in your heart. You can be an "old time penticost" with uncut hair, no makeup, etc ect and still have evil in your heart. I have alot of family who are not apostolic and seam to be in a better place spiritually then alot of my apostolic friends are. God looks at your heart not at what you wear. If your heart is where it needs to be with god then your outward apperance will show that. Whether your hair is cut or uncut...that's just no option.

Michael Phelps · #**458** 08-19-2008, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by LUKE2447

sheeeesh and don't you understand "ONLY"!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

If one is not baptized one CANNOT be saved in the NT church. How can you be united with him if you are not baptized! As baptism is where you are united with the BLOOD of Christ Romans 6!

Calm down, Tiger, take a chill pill.

Read the post that I responded to. The good elder broad brushed.

LUKE2447 · #**459** 08-19-2008, 11:57 AM

Sure God will judge your heart which is YOUR RESPONSE to him! That means YOU do something and seek God and his guidance and are a faithFUL servant! The wel God just looks on the heart only works in the sense of workings of the mind and did you "hold on" and trust him according to his word. Yes, you can do all the religious things in the world and have a horrible attitude that stinks up the universe. You can also be a nice, good person by nature and live according to general rules that we all accept and STILL not have FOLLOWED the leading of the Spirit and do what you are supposed to according to his Word and be considered LAWLESS! We are responsible for ONE THING in this life and that is our response to GOD!

What is involved in that (response) is changing all throughout our lives as God speaks to us and tries to lead us. We start with the basic message of the Gospel... Do we heed the call and turn and be united with Christ OR do we turn back to ourselves and do not give a proper response to his Word/Call! Faith is a "proper response" to the context of God's Word! Without this all throughout our live we cannot be saved. We live according to his will or we die living after our own not matter how nice or ugly we are inside!

Jack Shephard · #**460** 08-19-2008, 11:58 AM

[QUOTE=mfblume;569925]I believe each element mentioned in Acts 2:38 is what Peter referred to in speaking about salvation in Acts 2:40. In order to say "AND WITH MANY OTHER WORDS" Peter exhorted them to "save" themselves from that untoward generation, Peter was including Acts 2:38 as what saves us. The phrase "WITH MANY OTHER WORDS" immediately couples together Acts 2:38-39 with what SAVES us. People can say all they want that each element of Acts 2:38 was not salvation, but we would never read "AND WITH MANY OTHER WORDS did he testify and exhort, saying, Save yourselves from this untoward generation" if they weren't part of salvation.

I leave anyone who has not experienced all the elements with the Lord, as He is final judge. But this is what I tell people when they ask how to be saved. THAT is what is in the bible.

Now, things not in the bible are not what I preach, and I deny the idea that the pastor has the right to tell people to do things that are not in the bible, as though they have some sort of dictatorial right over their saints. That is heresy.[/QUOTE]

This part of the post is great, Aye!