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Old 03-30-2007, 07:01 AM
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I think all of it has less to do with concern with the environment and more to do with controlling the people.

From the Church to the Congress the law is weak to bring us to rightness.

Longer lists of laws only make longer lists of transgressors.

I do make an effort in my life to reduce my footprint on this earth. Whether global warming is true or not (which I doubt) we still cannot keep living lives that require more and more and more and more energy etc.

But... that being said... laws are NOT the answer. I amazed at the "tree hugger" that I am becoming but it is education that has brought me here. It makes me want to do things that have less of an impact on our environment.

Laws do not.

And...as I said... their goal doesn't have anything to do with the earth... it is just all part of our continual downward trend into a police state.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:03 AM
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I agree in being good stewards, but not idling your car for more than three minutes???

If ou have to wait for someone in the winter or in the summer, is it such a sin to have the heat going and or, A/C?

Sorry, this is an extreme IMHO.
I have been sitting here trying to remember where I have heard of this law before. When we were in Germany we were not allowed to leave the car running for longer than three minutes.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:08 AM
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I think it is humurous that we think that we are capable of destroying the earth. When God is ready the earth will be destroyed and until then no matter what we do it will remain. I am definately for recycling, but to think we can destroy what God has made is humanistic thinking.
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Why are plastic bags being outlawed in some places?
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:25 AM
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Why are plastic bags being outlawed in some places?
Not as Biodegradeable as Paper Bags.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:27 AM
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Not as Biodegradeable as Paper Bags.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:35 AM
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I have been sitting here trying to remember where I have heard of this law before. When we were in Germany we were not allowed to leave the car running for longer than three minutes.
In California truckers can't leave their trucks running.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:41 AM
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I think it is humurous that we think that we are capable of destroying the earth. When God is ready the earth will be destroyed and until then no matter what we do it will remain. I am definately for recycling, but to think we can destroy what God has made is humanistic thinking.
I believe this... we are absolutely and totally incapable of destroying the earth.

But we are capable of making it increasingly unfriendly to us for our own purposes.

If global warming is true... no destruction of the earth... but destruction of much of our land. There is evidence that MUCH land closer to our coasts was once part of the oceans, gulfs etc so this is nothing new... and if the ice caps melted and flooded much of the US what would the earth care?

If we kill ourselves off then the earth will recover.

The earth has suffered many natural events and time always makes life out of what brought death.

We can't destroy the earth.... so true.

But we can poison our own environment.

People live in cities that have visible clouds of exhaust fumes over them...

Companies dump poisons in landfills not thinking that these things leach into our water supply.

People build big cities in the dessert thinking they can suck these vast amounts of water out of aquifers forever and create an oasis against nature.

The huge cities we have today are using more resources than one area can give.

We can't kill the earth.

But we can sure mess ourselves up.
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:53 AM
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I agree D4T, I just think we go overboard.
A car that is just idling for the sake of idling yes turn it off.

A car that is waiting for someone to pick up on a niinety degree day, or a day that is freezing, having the car idle for ten fifteen minutes to run A/C or heating isn't unreasonable IMHO.
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I agree in being good stewards, but not idling your car for more than three minutes???

If ou have to wait for someone in the winter or in the summer, is it such a sin to have the heat going and or, A/C?

Sorry, this is an extreme IMHO.

Ron, didn't mean to bite your head off, hormones gone wild, sorry ...
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