Re: How would church change if the economy collaps
It might actually begin helping each other out instead of tearing each other down, or using my all time favorite "I'll pray for you".
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Re: How would church change if the economy collaps
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It might actually begin helping each other out instead of tearing each other down, or using my all time favorite "I'll pray for you".
Time will tell Mija, collapse is inevitable, it remains to be seen if the character of the American people will be -I am responsible for my brother, or dog eat dog.
Judging by the actions of many who claim to be Christian the verdict is out. However, in Houston there were so many reports of genuine selfless acts that hope springs eternal. On the other hand I must remind myself that Houston is unique in many ways.
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Time will tell Mija, collapse is inevitable, it remains to be seen if the character of the American people will be -I am responsible for my brother, or dog eat dog.
Judging by the actions of many who claim to be Christian the verdict is out. However, in Houston there were so many reports of genuine selfless acts that hope springs eternal. On the other hand I must remind myself that Houston is unique in many ways.
I know collapse is inevitable.
And I know the verdict is still very much out. I've seen some wonderful things recently, but I've seen the other side of the coin too, and far more often.
I am glad there were so many reports of selfless acts.
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Re: How would church change if the economy collaps
More people skipping mid-week services, prayer meetings, etc, and mostly just doing 1 service a week (because of gas prices. )
More people cutting corners on tithing and offerings. Less giving for missions, building fund, and other church fundraising programs.
More Sunday carpooling among saints?
Harder to get visitors to come to church (gas prices). More church Bus Ministries to pick up visitors?
More financial strain on saints... more trusting in God/ less leaning on ourselves... more prayer=deeper walks with God= more revival ??!!
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More people skipping mid-week services, prayer meetings, etc, and mostly just doing 1 service a week (because of gas prices. )
More people cutting corners on tithing and offerings. Less giving for missions, building fund, and other church fundraising programs.
More Sunday carpooling among saints?
Harder to get visitors to come to church (gas prices). More church Bus Ministries to pick up visitors?
More financial strain on saints... more trusting in God/ less leaning on ourselves... more prayer=deeper walks with God= more revival??1!
Yes, all of the above.
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In any case, the response to all of those problems finally caused Ben Bernanke to gas up the helicopters. Last Wednesday, it was announced that the Treasury plans a special series of bill auctions to help the Fed expand its balance sheet. Read: The Fed is going to print money to buy Treasurys so that the Treasury Department can lend money to all these institutions. In other words, the printing presses are setting about monetizing all of our problems.
Of course, this will lead to other problems, and it's why gold exploded by $80 an ounce last Wednesday. Which is the outcome that I'd always assumed would occur and is now here.
I believe that as we go through this process of sorting through and enduring the implosion of the U.S. (and potentially the world's) financial system and its economic consequences, we're going to see some government actions we can stomach and others we can't. The most important point is that we somehow start pursing policies that make sense prospectively.
Foreigners are finally watching. Last Tuesday, China's People's Daily said that the world is "threatened by a financial tsunami." In essence, the paper said, countries need to consider building a new financial and currency order that is not dependent on the United States and the dollar. After all, who wants to lend money to somebody who uses a printing press to pay you back? Obviously, the script you get paid in can easily become worthless.
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Events continue to move at a fast and furious pace. I don't think we've seen the last of startling actions. As for the investment ramifications of all of this action and potential future action, I think folks need to understand that amid the crosscurrents and head fakes, the potential to make mistakes is going to be extremely high. Probably the fewer decisions made right now, the better.
However, all decisions should be made with the expectation that the economic and financial environment will get far worse.
The Fed bailed out American International Group, so why isn't the stock market happy? Maybe because Wall Street is shocked by how little its biggest companies are worth, Jim Jubak says.For those of us who are professionals, a friend suggested that Henry Kissinger's comments about the Balkans should be kept in mind: "Whatever you do will be wrong, including nothing." That seems an appropriate warning.
That's not to say that we shouldn't make decisions. It's just that I believe we all ought to be extremely careful before we take any action.
Re: How would church change if the economy collaps
How about people get up off their backsides and walk to church? A mile or two walk will not hurt most of us .Or like was said earlier met house to house like in the book of Acts. Most have gotten so lazy they do good to walk to the car . Ride a bike to church and have a pitch in after service .Then brothers and sisters will you build a even stronger fellowship and strength .
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Re: How would church change if the economy collaps
I remember folks saying that Sadaam Hussein and bin laden brought a bunch of people back into the church, I suppose the economy is now in the running, although Sadaam's numbers will remain somewhat static.
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