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Old 10-27-2008, 09:53 PM
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Re: Liturgical Worship - Do you like it?

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John saw a Heavenly worship service and he described elements of it in vivid symbolism. There were breaks in this Heavenly worship service wherein symbolic visions of what was to soon come to pass were unfolded before John. I don't believe that John is describing a "non-event". It was a very REAL event taking place before him.



You're right....John didn't see movies. He saw an actual reality taking place before him...events that are even taking place as we speak.
Revelation 4:7-9
7And the first beast was like a lion, and the second beast like a calf, and the third beast had a face as a man, and the fourth beast was like a flying eagle.
8And the four beasts had each of them six wings about him; and they were full of eyes within: and they rest not day and night, saying, Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
9And when those beasts give glory and honour and thanks to him that sat on the throne, who liveth for ever and ever,
The worship is taking place as we speak...the incense is burning as we speak...the angels cry, "Holy!", as we speak. Also, the prayers of the saints are offered before the throne of Heaven, as we speak.

Heaven is REAL.

Please do not put words in my mouth as though I am saying Heaven is not real. John did not see what actually occurred in Heaven. He saw symbols of what ACTUALLY OCCURRED. Heaven is real but the realities are not incense and a seven-eyed lamb. The actualities are prayers and Jesus Christ.

There is worship in Heaven as we speak, yes. But it is not actually involving incense, but the incense represents the actual prayers rising from saints to God in heaven.

Heaven is real. But what John saw was not really Heaven. Heaven is not a la-la land of symbols. Real events occur there as we speak. John saw symbols of what is actually in Heaven. Like I said, and you missed it, John saw one on the throne and John also said no one has ever seen God at any time. He SAW SYMBOL of God, because God is omnipresent and cannot be actually seen.
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