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Old 10-29-2008, 05:41 PM
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Re: The Witches " bible"

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I have no idea what he's talking about...

I did google, the book that comes up wouldn't be considered funny, IMO. I did try finding a spoof and didn't find anything.

I will say that no, nothing having to do with witchcraft has to do with the Harry Potter series. Harry Potter is purely fictional. While it does discuss spell casting, the discussion is *purely* fictional.

As for what you're up against, I'd have to say nothing. I can't quite decide if you're saying the pastor has the pentegrams and such? Or someone else does? Either way, it's not you playing with fire, it's whoever it is you're discussing.

It does depend on what the person you're talking to is practicing/studying. If they're studying wicca, or even most witchcraft, they will not try to convert you and they would *never* cast for you or concerning you, and ABSOLUTELY NEVER to cause you harm. However, some who study/practice witchcraft do delve into darker magick... Yes, even within witchcraft there's division and disunity. lol

I'll also tell you that *you* will never convert a witch. Most witches I know are more informed about the history of the church, Christianity and the Bible (although maybe/maybe not on that last point) than most Christians I know. Only God can deal with a witch. Period. Don't meddle and try, you'll cause far more harm to their souls than if you just leave well enough alone. Just trust that God *can* and *will* deal with them. Be their friend...if you can avoid preaching most aren't opposed to the idea (and those who remained friends, without being preachy or trying to convert me, in spite of my path) played a very, very large part in God getting ahold of me.
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Same here.

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Old 10-29-2008, 05:48 PM
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Amen Sis,

Same here.

Ron
At least someone agrees with me about something.

I would absolutely love to hear your story sometime. How long has it been since you left witchcraft/paganism? And how/why?
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Old 10-29-2008, 06:45 PM
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At least someone agrees with me about something.

I would absolutely love to hear your story sometime. How long has it been since you left witchcraft/paganism? And how/why?
My mother's side of the family was involved from before I was born.
I left it at the age of 19 (I am 51 now) when I had completely lost control.

The conjures followed me even to work, knocked things off shelves and bothered customers (I was the 11pm - 7am shift).

My father finally believed me after he had his own encounter with a watcher that completely turned my room upside down.

He said that night (My night off) "I don't know what your going to do, but I'm going to bed."

That night, I came back to God.

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Old 10-29-2008, 06:59 PM
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My mother's side of the family was involved from before I was born.
I left it at the age of 19 (I am 51 now) when I had completely lost control.

The conjures followed me even to work, knocked things off shelves and bothered customers (I was the 11pm - 7am shift).

My father finally believed me after he had his own encounter with a watcher that completely turned my room upside down.

He said that night (My night off) "I don't know what your going to do, but I'm going to bed."

That night, I came back to God.

Ron
Well wasn't that nice of him!

I seriously wonder if there hasn't been someone in my family who has practiced and it's just been hush hush. I had encounters with things that started at a *very* young age. But, I had encounters with God starting not much after that too. I didn't start leaving Christianity until I was 20ish or so. And now I'm still trying to figure out how I got back here.

Interestingly, the night I first came to God, when I was 12, was due to one wild encounter. Kind of like what you were describing with the things falling off of shelves...except more.
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:06 PM
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Well wasn't that nice of him!

I seriously wonder if there hasn't been someone in my family who has practiced and it's just been hush hush. I had encounters with things that started at a *very* young age. But, I had encounters with God starting not much after that too. I didn't start leaving Christianity until I was 20ish or so. And now I'm still trying to figure out how I got back here.

Interestingly, the night I first came to God, when I was 12, was due to one wild encounter. Kind of like what you were describing with the things falling off of shelves...except more.
I was also 12 the first time I came to God.
I was in a Baptist youth camp (I was Mormon).
I went up front thinking a certain girl would like me, the closer I got to the alter the more my emotions began overwhelming me.

The Moron at the alter told me I didn't need to cry, just accept Jesus.
I asked him to get away from me.

I cried for a long, long time and felt so clean inside. When I discovered that my family who wanted me to go to church now wanted no part of me I turned away from God, till I was 19 and he took me back.

Ron
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:26 PM
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Well wasn't that nice of him!

I seriously wonder if there hasn't been someone in my family who has practiced and it's just been hush hush. I had encounters with things that started at a *very* young age. But, I had encounters with God starting not much after that too. I didn't start leaving Christianity until I was 20ish or so. And now I'm still trying to figure out how I got back here.

Interestingly, the night I first came to God, when I was 12, was due to one wild encounter. Kind of like what you were describing with the things falling off of shelves...except more.
Have you ever tried to video tape (or photograph) anything?
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Old 10-29-2008, 07:40 PM
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I have no idea what he's talking about...

I did google, the book that comes up wouldn't be considered funny, IMO. I did try finding a spoof and didn't find anything.

I will say that no, nothing having to do with witchcraft has to do with the Harry Potter series. Harry Potter is purely fictional. While it does discuss spell casting, the discussion is *purely* fictional.

As for what you're up against, I'd have to say nothing. I can't quite decide if you're saying the pastor has the pentegrams and such? Or someone else does? Either way, it's not you playing with fire, it's whoever it is you're discussing.

It does depend on what the person you're talking to is practicing/studying. If they're studying wicca, or even most witchcraft, they will not try to convert you and they would *never* cast for you or concerning you, and ABSOLUTELY NEVER to cause you harm. However, some who study/practice witchcraft do delve into darker magick... Yes, even within witchcraft there's division and disunity. lol

I'll also tell you that *you* will never convert a witch. Most witches I know are more informed about the history of the church, Christianity and the Bible (although maybe/maybe not on that last point) than most Christians I know. Only God can deal with a witch. Period. Don't meddle and try, you'll cause far more harm to their souls than if you just leave well enough alone. Just trust that God *can* and *will* deal with them. Be their friend...if you can avoid preaching most aren't opposed to the idea (and those who remained friends, without being preachy or trying to convert me, in spite of my path) played a very, very large part in God getting ahold of me.
Thanks alot,and no the one who has the pentegrams in his house is not a pastor.
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Old 10-30-2008, 04:38 AM
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Have you ever tried to video tape (or photograph) anything?
I was a kid.

The thought to take pictures of what was happening never really crossed my mind as I was laying there frozen with fear.

I haven't had experiences as an adult that would photograph, and really the fear thing...I don't know if I'd be in my right mind enough to think of it if I did.
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Maybe the NECRONOMICON??
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