if the job can be outsourced, it should be kept in house. This is a ministry of WEC - not amazon.com
they have the facilities and the equipment to do the job themselves, they should continue to do so before paying someone who is not a viable member of their own churches for the same tasks.
They can make profitable cuts elsewhere.
Theresa, outsourcing does not mean hiring and paying the same amount of people to do the work. Due to the drastic decrease in workload for these kinds of specialties, many businesses outsource the few calls they do get to a generic call center that can handle their calls along with others. My point is that I'm sure that this is not a case of laying off 13 Holy Ghost filled UPCers just to hire 13 heathens to do the same job. I understand that this sort of thing is difficult for those involved and for their friends, I'm just saying that there may be more to consider and I personally do not like some of the knee-jerk characterization of some of our leadership.
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I dont dispute that - but as long as GC operates in the red they should consider making necessary cutbacks, if only temporarily, to alleviate the financial strain.
I'm sure these 13 people, who always travel to GC to work it, would be willing to miss a couple of out of town conferences to keep their jobs. Its not a vacation for them - its work.
Its about making the best decision for the current economic crisis. And there is an economic crisis. No one says they have to have GC locally all the time, forever even. But they could save serious money if they would have it locally or cut it back to every other year....till the finances straighten out.
it doesnt make sense to have mass layoffs (which they have already done once this year) then have a conference that operated in the RED only to come home and lay off more people to save 80K.
Theresa, that makes fiscal sense but it won't happen.
To move to a biennial GC would be to acknowledge: "This organization isn't growing like we claim it is."
And the perception would probably send a lot more people out the door.
Agreed with the above posts pointing out that PPH is a dinosaur in the internet age.
Theresa, outsourcing does not mean hiring and paying the same amount of people to do the work. Due to the drastic decrease in workload for these kinds of specialties, many businesses outsource the few calls they do get to a generic call center that can handle their calls along with others. My point is that I'm sure that this is not a case of laying off 13 Holy Ghost filled UPCers just to hire 13 heathens to do the same job. I understand that this sort of thing is difficult for those involved and for their friends, I'm just saying that there may be more to consider and I personally do not like some of the knee-jerk characterization of some of our leadership.
I'm fully aware of what outsourcing means and the potential for some savings to PPH.
I guess you'd have to be close to the situation and see the other problems that NEED addressing. This is NOT a knee jerk characterization.
If you lived here, you'd better understand.
There is more to the problem than them laying off 13 UPCers....
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This TIC post is not meant to make light of the very real pain experienced by those who are losing their jobs, a pain exacerbated by the luxurious lifestyles of the servants at the top.
Does anybody remember John Wilkins' Mack, the turtle at the bottom of the stack?
Lord, I think that a lot of this simply points back to the simple reality that in this day and time, you do not need a full-time staff to do those things that the original post said these people had been doing in years past. It is an archaic position in the times of internet ordering and computer tracking and management of orders. Then you have to factor in all of the other tough economic situations facing our country and by extension almost every organization. Most of the people on here who are complaining about a lack of willingness to cut in other areas are probably not even in a position to have insight as to what other areas have had to be tightened as a result of this.
Not many of us here (if any) are in the position to actually know what is happening. We are just figuring based on what we have seen in past performance.
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