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Old 11-24-2008, 03:29 PM
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"going over something in my head"

is that kind of like when you run over something in the road, the put the car in reverse, and re-run over it just to make sure there was something there, then put it back in Drive and re-re-run over it as you go along your merry way?


just asking.....

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It's more like when you run over something in the road then you throw the car into reverse to re run over it then you drive forward to run over it again but the road kill is still alive and grabbing your rear tire so that you can't really drive away so you just keep running over it until it is dead.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:30 PM
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I aint arguing with you here.... but this begs a physics question that I just cant answer... as you seem to be willing to provide answers, let me ask you this.

Given that that the law of gravitational pull is stronger on heavier objects, why do all objects fall at the same rate of speed? (I believe that objects fall at a rate of 9.8 meters per second per second?
Not necessarily true. For instance, the shape and form of an object greatly impacts its rate of fall.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:37 PM
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Not necessarily true. For instance, the shape and form of an object greatly impacts its rate of fall.

actually that impact is based on wind not on gravity. given a constant of a vacuum, a feather will fall as fast as an arrow.

On earth that constant is interrupted by the effect of friction from the atmosphere. an object with dense mass (bowling ball) will fall faster thru Earths atmosphere than an object with a less dense mass (styrofoam block).
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:44 PM
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It's more like when you run over something in the road then you throw the car into reverse to re run over it then you drive forward to run over it again but the road kill is still alive and grabbing your rear tire so that you can't really drive away so you just keep running over it until it is dead.
that reminds me of something that is kind of opposite of that.

well sorta.


You would have to be country folk to really understand this.


I grew up in the country and we kept a lot of cats around as mousers. we didnt feed them much so they would go get thier own food (like mice).

anyway Catt like to jump up on the top of a wheel on cars and trucks. when you get in a car and take off, for some reason some cats will try to run on the tire instead of jumping off.

Well you can figure out what eventually happens to the cat.

Since we have been talking about mass and gravity lets just say the force of gravity pressing down on the bottom of the tire reacts directly with the cats less dense mass.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:46 PM
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I aint arguing with you here.... but this begs a physics question that I just cant answer... as you seem to be willing to provide answers, let me ask you this.

Given that that the law of gravitational pull is stronger on heavier objects, why do all objects fall at the same rate of speed? (I believe that objects fall at a rate of 9.8 meters per second per second?
The reason for this is that the heavier object has greater inertia. Therefore it resists the pull of gravity because it wants to remain in its previous state of rest (before it was dropped). The greater inertia cancels out the greater pull of gravity and it falls at the same speed as the lighter object with less inertia.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:48 PM
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actually that impact is based on wind not on gravity. given a constant of a vacuum, a feather will fall as fast as an arrow.

On earth that constant is interrupted by the effect of friction from the atmosphere. an object with dense mass (bowling ball) will fall faster thru Earths atmosphere than an object with a less dense mass (styrofoam block).
But life is not lived in a vaccum.
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Old 11-24-2008, 03:52 PM
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Assuming, that the toast slips out of its container accidentally, chances are high for one side of the toast to touch the rim of the plate or container before falling freely to the ground. Assuming again that the location where the accident occurred is inside an area wherein there is no strong wind movement present, the theory of aerodynamics in this experiment is set aside.

While the toast is undergoing its free fall and it is assumed that one side of it touches the rim of its container before the buttered toast slips out of it completely, it will surely take a spiraling or rotating downward movement, thus, giving us a picture that the odds were high for the toast not to land on its buttered side. But why it is more likely to land on its buttered side?

As the toast goes downward realizing that the other side of it was coated with butter, it definitely has more weight compared to the other side that does not have a butter coating. It is known that the law of gravity or the gravitational pull is stronger in heavier objects. Therefore, due to the added weight of the butter that was being applied on one side of the toast, the buttered side of the toast is more likely to touch the ground first.
Can't ignore aerodynamics. Heavy things fall faster only because of aerodynamics: drag affects lighter objects more than heavier ones. In a vacuum, if all other factors are random, the butter side will hit the floor with the same probability as the other side.

However, some factors are not random! The rate of tumbling of the bread and the distance fallen are big factors, too, and these factors may be more important than the aerodynamics. The rate and distance may be close enough to the same from one fall to another that one side may well hit more often than the other, even in a vacuum. And Murphy has proven that that side will probably be the buttered side.

I see that I have typed too slow (and/or too much) and someone beat me to the punch.

Typical.

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Jermyn,

Are you 13 or 99? I have had trouble figuring out from your posts in the past.
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But life is not lived in a vaccum.
I thought you had been around the forum long enough to know tha can be disproved by some here!
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.

"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.

"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."

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But life is not lived in a vaccum.
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