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11-30-2008, 12:30 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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OK You definitely don't qualify to sing the final stanza!
Might look into a part in the "Valley of Bones" musical though.  |
A chimney climber can't be that hard to find.  
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11-30-2008, 12:56 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
God help us be at least Apostolic enough, cause when I read the book of Acts and then look at this present day apostolic movement, I see 2 different groups!
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11-30-2008, 01:23 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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God help us be at least Apostolic enough, cause when I read the book of Acts and then look at this present day apostolic movement, I see 2 different groups!
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yup he got a new stir stick 
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In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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11-30-2008, 06:23 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
I pray we get beyond the worship of a label and worship the ONE who refuses to be put in our little boxes.
As Hezekiah took the brazen serpent and ground it into powder, so should we take our labels and destroy them.
Stop with the idolatry. Real men and women of God do not need to lean on labels for identifications. Just being with Jesus is all the identification I desire.
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God help us be at least Apostolic enough, cause when I read the book of Acts and then look at this present day apostolic movement, I see 2 different groups!
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
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11-30-2008, 09:05 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
I am 50 years old, have never attended (except as a visitor) anything besides OP churches, UPCI and ALJC. I have attended two, was interim pastor of one, and have currently been pastoring where I am for 9 years, 11 months.
I have seen a lot of things change, and have seen change go both ways, I thank God for everything I have experienced, as it all has served to bring me where I am.
I have great respect for those who hold to traditions as part of their consecration to God, and do not impose them on others as salvational. That being said, in my experience, in the 70's, I saw a move towards what I refer to as competitive holiness, where men tried to see who could be "holier", and where men changed their beliefs to be accepted by others in fellowship. I view both of these as sad.
Too apostolic? Nah, but maybe too something else.
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11-30-2008, 09:09 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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I pray we get beyond the worship of a label and worship the ONE who refuses to be put in our little boxes.
As Hezekiah took the brazen serpent and ground it into powder, so should we take our labels and destroy them.
Stop with the idolatry. Real men and women of God do not need to lean on labels for identifications. Just being with Jesus is all the identification I desire.
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I rarely read your posts because all I can hear is Charlie Browns teacher talking when I try.
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12-02-2008, 08:02 AM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
People can definitely become too Apostolic - it's called being so heavenly minded they are no earthly good.
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12-02-2008, 05:01 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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being so heavenly minded they are no earthly good.
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I've never seen someone this way.... : )
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12-02-2008, 05:24 PM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
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I rarely read your posts because all I can hear is Charlie Browns teacher talking when I try.
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That's unfortunate - he really has some good things to say.
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12-03-2008, 04:36 AM
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Re: Can We Become Too Apostolic?
Why respond? Oh well. Since I have to do the thinking for you here we go.
Read about Hezekiah. He not only destroyed pagan shrines, he also destroyed the brazen serpent. What was once used to save millions from the judgement of God had to be pulverized into powder because the children of Israel were worshipping the brazen serpent. Not only did Hezikiah have to get paganism out of the country, he had to get rid of the idolatry of his own religion. God never intended for the Israelites to worship the brazen serpent.
Anyone who wraps them self around a particular religious idealogue is heading down the same path as the brazen serpent idolaters.
It is ridiculous for the people of God to attach labels to themselves. The only people we impress with our labels are ourselves. Jesis didn't call us to be apostolic. He didn't call us to be baptist, presbyterian, methodist, charismatic, chirch of christ, etc. We called to be Followers of Christ.
Labels limit God. Labels are only our perceptions of what God is. When God does something outside of our perception, our first reaction and often our only reaction is to trivialize it.
Too bad you feel offended. The Word does offend. The principle is established in scripture. So if it comes from Charlie Brown's teacher, or if it comes from a dumb donkey, the Word is the Word and it is forever established in heaven.
While you are sitting in the field wating for the Great Pumpkin. I choose to be storming the Gates of Hell, where the Church is situated ready for the massive outpouring in prophesied in Joel 2.
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I rarely read your posts because all I can hear is Charlie Browns teacher talking when I try.
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A religious spirit allows people to tolerate hatred and anger under the guise of passion and holiness. Bill Johnson
Legalism has no pity on people. Legalism makes my opinion your burden, makes opinion your boundary, makes my opinion your obligation-Lucado
Some get spiritual because they see the light. Others because they feel the heat.Ray Wylie Hubbard
Definition of legalism- Damned if you do. Damned if you don't. TV
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