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Old 12-16-2008, 09:37 AM
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Re: May I smoke here??!

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THANKS A LOT AAK - thanks to you I have accomplished NOTHING at work today! and it is about lunch time here and let me say I am having Organic Black Bean Vegetable soup today; I had a banana, apple and orange for breakfast and have a tangerine and possibly another orange for snack later on today
Didnt realize you are such a health nut!
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:39 AM
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Didnt realize you are such a health nut!
I haven't always been but have gradually changed in the past few years - it just makes you feel so much better. Hubby is REALLY a health nut - even more so that me! I tend to fall of the wagon some though when I come home for a visit - LOL
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Old 12-16-2008, 09:55 AM
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Re: May I smoke here??!

It simply amazes me that one can find a valid excuse for a sinful behavior by suggesting that some other behavior is just as sinful.

Smoking damages a body and is very addictive and unless one smokes in a vacuum sealed chamber, smoking hurts those around you.

If you want to have a discussion about over eating, then fine. We have done that many times. Its a worthy discussion.

You want to talk about the evil of pork, great, we have done that too and it is a worthy discussion.

You want to talk about the evils of caffeine great! We have discussed that more than once too....


But PLEASE people, none of those things is an excuse for lighting up and ingesting tobacco into your lungs. Smoking damages the body. period. end of discussion. it damages the body very clearly, it kills people, it harms those around the smoker, and it has an addictive nature that keeps you coming back for more.


One cannot smoke in moderation and not damage your body. One cannot smoke on occasion for recreation and not damage your body.

No amount of bacon or fried chicken or chicken fried in bacon grease undoes the simple fact that smoking DAMAGES the body!

Doing willfull damage to the Temple of God is a SIN.

If you are attempting to justify smoking using ANY argument at all, you are attempting to justify sin. period.



Some complain that AFF has become "Post-Apostolic". This thread makes me wonder if we have "Apostolics" that have really become Post-Christian.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:00 AM
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Re: May I smoke here??!

I am not justifying anything - I DON'T SMOKE!! I DON'T DRINK!! I DON'T OVEREAT!! No one has said bacon, fried chicken etc undoes the fact that smoking DAMAGES the body - I am say it ALL DAMAGES THE BODY and if you do not think one is just as damaging as the other then you are not well-educated in that area.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:00 AM
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Re: May I smoke here??!

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It simply amazes me that one can find a valid excuse for a sinful behavior by suggesting that some other behavior is just as sinful.

Smoking damages a body and is very addictive and unless one smokes in a vacuum sealed chamber, smoking hurts those around you.

If you want to have a discussion about over eating, then fine. We have done that many times. Its a worthy discussion.

You want to talk about the evil of pork, great, we have done that too and it is a worthy discussion.

You want to talk about the evils of caffeine great! We have discussed that more than once too....


But PLEASE people, none of those things is an excuse for lighting up and ingesting tobacco into your lungs. Smoking damages the body. period. end of discussion. it damages the body very clearly, it kills people, it harms those around the smoker, and it has an addictive nature that keeps you coming back for more.


One cannot smoke in moderation and not damage your body. One cannot smoke on occasion for recreation and not damage your body.

No amount of bacon or fried chicken or chicken fried in bacon grease undoes the simple fact that smoking DAMAGES the body!

Doing willfull damage to the Temple of God is a SIN.

If you are attempting to justify smoking using ANY argument at all, you are attempting to justify sin. period.



Some complain that AFF has become "Post-Apostolic". This thread makes me wonder if we have "Apostolics" that have really become Post-Christian.
I am not trying to justify smoking! I dont smoke! I just wanna know why the smokers are picked on when all the things you mention are also doing willfull damage to the body.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:11 AM
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Re: May I smoke here??!

Should we put warning stickers on our cars?

Since one out of every 7 cars on the road have somone inebriated in some way.

Either elderly, over tired, drunk, on drugs, car not in driving safety condition etc..

Some willfully smoke knowing it will kill them.

There are 10's of Thousands each year that die behind the wheel of their cars.

Knowing that when they got behind the wheel someone out there would be driving inebriated.
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:13 AM
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Re: May I smoke here??!

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It simply amazes me that one can find a valid excuse for a sinful behavior by suggesting that some other behavior is just as sinful.

Smoking damages a body and is very addictive and unless one smokes in a vacuum sealed chamber, smoking hurts those around you.

If you want to have a discussion about over eating, then fine. We have done that many times. Its a worthy discussion.

You want to talk about the evil of pork, great, we have done that too and it is a worthy discussion.

You want to talk about the evils of caffeine great! We have discussed that more than once too....


But PLEASE people, none of those things is an excuse for lighting up and ingesting tobacco into your lungs. Smoking damages the body. period. end of discussion. it damages the body very clearly, it kills people, it harms those around the smoker, and it has an addictive nature that keeps you coming back for more.


One cannot smoke in moderation and not damage your body. One cannot smoke on occasion for recreation and not damage your body.

No amount of bacon or fried chicken or chicken fried in bacon grease undoes the simple fact that smoking DAMAGES the body!

Doing willfull damage to the Temple of God is a SIN.

If you are attempting to justify smoking using ANY argument at all, you are attempting to justify sin. period.



Some complain that AFF has become "Post-Apostolic". This thread makes me wonder if we have "Apostolics" that have really become Post-Christian.

It's not a matter of aceepting smoking. It is a matter of logic and why some things are singled out and others are not touched because they are accepted...
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:13 AM
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Re: May I smoke here??!

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Should we put warning stickers on our cars?

Since one out of every 7 cars on the road have somone inebriated in some way.

Either elderly, over tired, drunk, on drugs, car not in driving safety condition etc..

Some willfully smoke knowing it will kill them.

There are 10's of Thousands each year that die behind the wheel of their cars.

Knowing that when they got behind the wheel someone out there would be driving inebriated.
You have to die of something!
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:15 AM
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I am not justifying anything - I DON'T SMOKE!! I DON'T DRINK!! I DON'T OVEREAT!! No one has said bacon, fried chicken etc undoes the fact that smoking DAMAGES the body - I am say it ALL DAMAGES THE BODY and if you do not think one is just as damaging as the other then you are not well-educated in that area.

Hey, I love Fried Chicken and Bacon...

So does most of the Pentecostals.

It shows.....

I just eat it in moderation, (Moderation)...

There we go again...
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Old 12-16-2008, 10:16 AM
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You have to die of something!
I know so I want to sleep in a hyper chamber.

So the dust in my house or the germs in my house don't take me out...
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