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12-16-2008, 12:10 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by jtork
If your obesity is caused from your gluttony it is sin.
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Yes, but then again, it's not the obesity that is a sin. It's the gluttony. Obesity is the consequence of SOME that consistently over-eat.
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12-16-2008, 12:11 PM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
It's the results of sin, and innocent life is affected-
But thank God we know the answer to the sin problem.
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Yes, we do. Thank you Jesus!
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-16-2008, 12:12 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by 2020Vision
Yes, but then again, it's not the obesity that is a sin. It's the gluttony. Obesity is the consequence of SOME that consistently over-eat.
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Did not say obesity was a sin - I believe my stance all along as been gluttony is a sin just as anything else you do that defiles your body.
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12-16-2008, 12:13 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
Cursing is okay. fowl talk is fine. Afterall, we've all said things that were wrong. Everyone's guilty of such so it justifies the act altogther
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12-16-2008, 12:13 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by Jeanie
Are you not understanding the point Mike is making??
Then how twisted is it to tell people who smoke they are going to hell, but for someone who has purposely over eats to point of gluttony on a continual basis is not??
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Fact is, I don't remember telling a smoker they are going to hell. Never had to. We preach against it and let them know it doesn't please God. It goes without saying. I'm not missing his point at all. This is like a child getting caught, trying to complain about everything his brother did to get him out of the trouble he's in.
Some of you like blanket, tidy consistency and are afraid to approach issues one-by-one. A glutton, one who is given to vicious appetities and overeating, is surely in sin. I think they are BOTH sinning. There!
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12-16-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by jtork
Did not say obesity was a sin - I believe my stance all along as been gluttony is a sin just as anything else you do that defiles your body.
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Right... this was a carry-over from my dialogue with Phelps, to which you commented.
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12-16-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by 2020Vision
You missed the whole "Spirit leads us into all Truth".
If that isn't happening at your Church, maybe there's so much concern for consistency, that everyone if afraid to stand for ANYTHING, lest they be inconsistent.
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Wow!!!! Wow!!!!
First of all I didn't miss anything....you are using one theory under which must apply to every single believer and it doesn't work that way in the real world.
People have to be taught,
Secondly I don't think you have a clue as what is happening in my church.
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12-16-2008, 12:14 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
I agree that just because someone is labeled "obese" does not mean that are guilty of gluttony - according to the BMI charts my husband is obese because of his weight/height ratio -but he weighs more because he works out alot and we all know muscle weighs more than fat but it still puts him at obese.
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12-16-2008, 12:15 PM
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Forever Loved Admin
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Re: May I smoke here??!
Has anybody mentioned not being afraid of what destroys our bodies, but destroys our souls?
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If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray, and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.
2 Chronicles 7:14 KJV
He hath shewed thee, O man, what is good; and what doth the LORD require of thee, but to do justly, and to love mercy, and to walk humbly with thy God? Micah 6:8 KJV
Beloved, now are we the sons of God, and it doth not yet appear what we shall be: but we know that, when he shall appear, we shall be like him; for we shall see him as he is. 1 John 3:2 KJV
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12-16-2008, 12:15 PM
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Re: May I smoke here??!
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Originally Posted by StMark
Cursing is okay. fowl talk is fine. Afterall, we've all said things that were wrong. Everyone's guilty of such so it justifies the act altogther
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You don't even make any sense now - LOL
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