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Old 12-16-2008, 01:23 PM
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Many preach against gluttony and smoking. I do.
My Pastor does both. I talked about it previously. Has to do with appetites. He preaches on the principles of it as well.

More importantly, my Pastor preaches on the Holiness of God and His call for us to be Holy, and not much else needs to be said. We examine ourselves, and cigarettes have a hard time matching God's definition of holiness - as does gluttony.

Some were confusing obesity with gluttony. Others are saying if we can eat a candy bar, and it's no good for us, why can't we smoke a joint? Silly argumentation.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:24 PM
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Who says they aren't preached? Why are you so obsessed with this? Maybe pastors should mail you cards about the "other sins" they preach about to keep you in the loop. This just seems to be another lame attempt to attack the church and prove some great error and inconsistency. It's not working.

If AAK and Phelps both agree cigarettes are not pleasing to God, then what is left to talk about? Is there a poster here that doesn't believe gluttony is wrong?
LOL I am not obsessed!! I merely started a thread b/c I knew you guys couldnt resist bashing each other and I needed some enertainment.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:25 PM
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O edjen01 it is ok I do not care I was just saying cause someone will bring it up... O you said your new.... Welcome.....
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:25 PM
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Agree, a true prophet only speaks for God when He has spoken.

It doesn't take "thus saith the Lord" for me to obey and follow my Pastor though. If it's in harmony with scripture, has good intention for the interest of the flock, and come from a man of love, then I'm with him. If I ever felt he was off, I would really take it from the Lord. If a man is off in one area, chances are that would repeat, and I could address that then. All that to say, God uses the Pastor to lead and make decisions in 21st Century America.
I respect your faith and comittment.

For me....I like God to cut out the middle-man. And it apprears that God has given you and I shephers after our own hearts.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:26 PM
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Well - if they drank overate, etc before they were then I hope they are doing something about it now. There are things you can do to help you live a better life with COPD - plenty of Vitamin C helps; Omega 3 supplements, magnesium; flaxsee and walnuts; kidney beans, soybeans; eat salmon, haibut or tuna at least 3 times a week. Studies have been done that proves this is just a few of the things you can do if you suffer from COPD to help you live a better life.
The best thing I believe is to also quit smoking. My mother died from this and she never would take the advice of her doctor.She would not give up the cigarettes.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:26 PM
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O edjen01 it is ok I do not care I was just saying cause someone will bring it up... O you said your new.... Welcome.....
thanks.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:27 PM
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My Pastor does both. I talked about it previously. Has to do with appetites. He preaches on the principles of it as well.

More importantly, my Pastor preaches on the Holiness of God and His call for us to be Holy, and not much else needs to be said. We examine ourselves, and cigarettes have a hard time matching God's definition of holiness - as does gluttony.

Some were confusing obesity with gluttony. Others are saying if we can eat a candy bar, and it's no good for us, why can't we smoke a joint? Silly argumentation.

actually there has already been an exchange in this tread that seems to suggest that smoking a joint not only isnt bad but is often done by a poster here.
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:28 PM
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LOL I am not obsessed!! I merely started a thread b/c I knew you guys couldnt resist bashing each other and I needed some enertainment.
Right....

And if true... provoking your brethern to wrath, eh?

So what is your position on this matter?
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Old 12-16-2008, 01:29 PM
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I respect your faith and comittment.

For me....I like God to cut out the middle-man. And it apprears that God has given you and I shephers after our own hearts.
Well, hearing from God is one thing. Being submitted to a pastor is something altogether different. It's the Apostolic model, and is a pattern after scripture. This is Apostolic Friends Forum. But yes, God has given me not only a shepherd after MY heart, but after God's heart.
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actually there has already been an exchange in this tread that seems to suggest that smoking a joint not only isnt bad but is often done by a poster here.
Ferd, that's what I thought. But others are accusing of over-reacting and jumping to conclusions.
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