We've been defined for too long by what we are AGAINST, instead of what we are FOR!
The problem is, this creates a "the more I'm against, the holier I am" mentality that becomes a competition.
Exactly !
But I can't take all the credit, my pastor preached a sermon on this a few months back and it really stuck with me. He said; " if you ask anyone out in our community what we are against, they could probably write you a book. If you asked them what we are for, you would be lucky if they could list one thing"
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
But I can't take all the credit, my pastor preached a sermon on this a few months back and it really stuck with me. He said; " if you ask anyone out in our community what we are against, they could probably write you a book. If you asked them what we are for, you would be lucky if they could list one thing"
I think I would like your pastor!
__________________ "Many people view their relationship with God like a "color by number" picture. It's easier to let someone else define the boundaries, tell them which blanks to fill in, and what color to use than it is for them to take a blank canvas and seek inspiration from the Source in order to paint their own masterpiece"
for many, standards is the plan of salvation.
Many preach a "performance based" cultish religion
Many ? Maybe , but not all ..
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
And Admin will read the thread and I will adhere to their decision.
I am still giving you a chance to contribute to the discussion. I have stated more than once that I would gladly retract my statement if you would post something of substance. Something that says "Hey, I didnt just come here to gloat over another UPC thread"
I believe all of my discussion with each poster here should show that I am an understanding person who only wishes for serious fellowship.
I will even attempt to open to you again. Tell me Mr. Hawkman, what would you like to see changed about the UPC ?
for 1 the way people are treated. from my first post here I stated what seemed to be the feeling of the poster I respond to. It was right according to their response. then you call me a hater. an understanding person would not jump on somewon for that. I am not a hater and there was no hate in my post. I post as mature as you do if you can handle that. the UPC has a terrible track record of treating people and minsters bad. Read the posts talk to people. when you leave you are toast and a toad! you are no longer saved. that is what many think and the way they treat you.
unless it has been modified, that's what it used to say
Which is it, though? Does "duly authorized" mean only ordained ministers? Or does it mean the local ministry can authorize someone who isn't ordained?
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
I thinnk your the pot calling the kettle black. I have a right to my posting and nothing in it had any hate as you accused. I demand a retraction.
You can't just demand a retraction. LOL!!!!! People have the freedom to express their opinions, and that includes scotty. I don't see where he broke any rules. Just because you disliked his comments doesn't mean he has to retract them.
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"God, send me anywhere, only go with me. Lay any burden on me, only sustain me. And sever any tie in my heart except the tie that binds my heart to Yours."
--David Livingstone
"To see no being, not God’s or any, but you also go thither,
To see no possession but you may possess it—enjoying all without labor or purchase—
abstracting the feast, yet not abstracting one particle of it;…."
--Walt Whitman, Leaves of Grass, Song of the Open Road
You can't just demand a retraction. LOL!!!!! People have the freedom to express their opinions, and that includes scotty. I don't see where he broke any rules. Just because you disliked his comments doesn't mean he has to retract them.
Hawkman called Scotty a pot.
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
for 1 the way people are treated. from my first post here I stated what seemed to be the feeling of the poster I respond to. It was right according to their response. then you call me a hater. an understanding person would not jump on somewon for that. I am not a hater and there was no hate in my post. I post as mature as you do if you can handle that. the UPC has a terrible track record of treating people and minsters bad. Read the posts talk to people. when you leave you are toast and a toad! you are no longer saved. that is what many think and the way they treat you.
Finally, thank you for your contribution.
NOTE TO ALL: I HEREBY RETRACT MY STATEMENT OF "HATER" TOWARD HAWKMAN, I HAVE MISTAKENLY TAKEN WHAT LITTLE HE POSTED AND CHARACTORIZED HIS PERSON. WITH MORE INFORMATION BEING KNOWN, MY ASSESMENT WAS WRONG. I APOLOGIZE.
MOW has also spoken of the UPC "reputation" and I posted in several places that the reputation is not all inclusive of all UPC churches. UPC history is much darker than the whole today. Many here have also admitted it has been awhile since they have graced a UPC church and others have admitted to attending some undesirable ones as well as pleasantly different ones. By your post I am assuming that you have been hurt and angered by your experience with the UPC. On behalf of the rest of us who have done you no harm, I apologize. I do hope and pray that God will give you peace, closure and victory over the bitterness.
God bless.
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
__________________ You can't reach the world with your talents. People are sick and tired of religious talents. People need a Holy Ghost annointed church with real fruits to reach out and touch their lives. ~ Pastor Burrell Crabtree
In fact I think that the insinuation of "hateful" Pentecostals is coming mostly from the fertile imaginations of bitter, backslidden ex Apostolics who are constantly trying to find a way to justify their actions. ~ strait shooter
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