Do you find the Bible confusing?

[Praxeas]

Originally Posted by HaShaliach

Hey Praxeas! Been doing word comparisons, have we? LOLOL You really do good, bro.

BTW, I have missed you being a member of my community, since the old Christian Corner closed up.

Now, lets continue the process and take a look at the Greek word (Apelueto) (G561,from G576, & G1725) as used in this Septuagint (LXX) rendering of the verse. The "face to face" idiom drops off and "in the presence of" emerges to the forefront. This gives us a clue as to which of the meanings of the original Hebrew was intended to be understood. This, of course, redirects our attention away from a "eye to eye" type exchange back to "in the presence of", a picture of close proximity (intimacy) of the participants.

There is a Greek/Hebrew study thread somewhere on this forum - you might like to check it out and contribute some of your studies there. I would really like to see some of your work.

I'd like to explore this more. I argued once that "to seek the face of God" was idiomatic for seeking His favor. So I wondered if "face to face" was not somehow connected to that very idea. Surely if you are favored enough you might have had a more direct encounter with God "in His presence" than others.

This comes by way of some that assert they saw God in the OT, where God said no man can see Him and live and in the NT we are told no man has seen God at any time.

BTW how I got to looking at Prosopon. Prosopon is the Greek equivelent of the Latin Persona. Persona is of course where we get Person from. However Trinitarians would never ever agree to persona to represent Father, Son and Spirit as it means "mask" of an actor essentially..

The greek/Latin word they used was hypostasis, which means substance or foundation. Essentially then hypostasis is what is underneath. Prosopon or Persona is what is above...it's the part you see. It's the physical appearence or presence of a person.

God has no physical "parts" except considering the incarnation. In the OT, however some did "see" something. But if definitionally God is a non-physical being then what they saw was only representative.