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Old 01-10-2009, 08:22 AM
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Re: Trinitarian belief?

Hey Sam.

To me that seems more like a definition of a manifestation.

Person seems more disticnt.

3 Persons.....3=1......more like a committee.

3 manifestations to me is the one God revealing himself 3 different ways.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:36 AM
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I don't know anything about God, for certain. Funny how so many people do, and so many different and conflicting things. Funny.
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Old 01-10-2009, 08:40 AM
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Re: Trinitarian belief?

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Hey Sam.

To me that seems more like a definition of a manifestation.

Person seems more disticnt.

3 Persons.....3=1......more like a committee.

3 manifestations to me is the one God revealing himself 3 different ways.
Here is a brief explanation of the Trinity:

God exists in three persons, each having their own wills and love for each other. They are co-equal and co-eternal. They are each God, but they are distinct from each other:

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Old 01-10-2009, 08:59 AM
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I don't want to argue. I want to try and understand where the thinking comes from. To help me better understand them.

I was hoping someone one AFF could put it in simple terms.
Not to sound rude or anything but...
Why not just use Google?

There's a lot of information readily available there, in seconds.
That's usually a good place to start.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:32 AM
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Not to sound rude or anything but...
Why not just use Google?

There's a lot of information readily available there, in seconds.
That's usually a good place to start.
I did go to the internet, catholic ency, and a former catholic.

I have 5 co-workers that say they beleive in the trinity, yet when I ask them to explain it to me in very simple terms I get the run around. I get the feeling they don't know how to explain it.

I know what I have read about it yet it is not easy to understand where it comes from.

That's why I was hoping someone on here could tell me.
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Old 01-10-2009, 10:44 AM
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Here is a brief explanation of the Trinity:

God exists in three persons, each having their own wills and love for each other. They are co-equal and co-eternal. They are each God, but they are distinct from each other:

Are you saying that they beleive in 1 God that has been split into 3rds.

Example 1 God, split into the 1/3 Father, 1/3 Son & 1/3 HG, all being different persons. That is where I'm having problems. To me a person is 1.
I understand manifestation but I'm not clear on their thinking.

Do they beleive in three Gods?
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:04 AM
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Re: Trinitarian belief?

To me the doctrine of the Trinity is confusion. There is no understanding of it; in fact many will say you have to accept it by faith.
The main thing they want to ignore, and even say we misrepresent their belief, is that three distinct persons, each being God, is three Gods.
Someone once tried to convince me that "one God" doesn't mean one individual that is God, but means something like one team; there are three Gods, but they operate as one. I don't think that's what most Trinitarians believe.
My son asked a man to explain the Trinity to him, and he proceeded to explain exactly what we believe. To some, the word "Trinity" just means the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God; they don't really believe there are three thrones in heaven.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:11 AM
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To me the doctrine of the Trinity is confusion. There is no understanding of it; in fact many will say you have to accept it by faith.
The main thing they want to ignore, and even say we misrepresent their belief, is that three distinct persons, each being God, is three Gods.
Someone once tried to convince me that "one God" doesn't mean one individual that is God, but means something like one team; there are three Gods, but they operate as one. I don't think that's what most Trinitarians believe.
My son asked a man to explain the Trinity to him, and he proceeded to explain exactly what we believe. To some, the word "Trinity" just means the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost are one God; they don't really believe there are three thrones in heaven.
Yes I have talked to some that say that. But as you pointed out it's hard to pin them down and most of the time they can not explain it.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:14 AM
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Trinitarians usually want to define "person" by what a person does, not what a person actually is.
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Old 01-10-2009, 11:30 AM
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Another thing, some Trinitarians seem to think a "manifestation" is something less than real. The manifestation of the Holy Spirit is as real as anything gets.
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