Race Based Government?

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by TRFrance

You're not "convinced"? That was never what this was about. At least not in my mind.

Let me make this part clear again. I made a comment based on my opinion. You asked why I had that opinion. I gave you a brief, broad idea why, and I gave you a google search to look into it more if you wanted, to form your own opinion.

It was never my mission, nor is there any burden of "proof" on me, to "convince" you that she is a racist. That seems to be the point that's being missed here.

You made an accusation against someone on a public forum. I came to their defense and challenged you to substantiate your rather odious accusation. You confess that you are unable to substantiate that charge yet you don't have the courtesy to withdraw the accusation. That's where it stands.

Originally Posted by TRFrance

huh?

How did I bring race into the discussion, when race is a key component of the discussion from the original post... and the thread is entitled "Race Based Government"??

I'll make myself clear again. ...I didn't bring HER race (Asian/Filipina) into this. Praxeas did, and you took it to the next level.

Neither did I say or indicate anything that would imply that maybe I "dont like Filipinos", as you tried to inject into the discussion with this:


That was patently unfair, and frankly, a low blow.

And calling Michelle Malkin a "racist" on a public forum where she would probably not be available to defend herself is not a low blow? I thought it was, so I spoke up.

Originally Posted by TRFrance

That she did. People of her ilk do.
There are a few of them out there that do that, and I largely ignore them too.

... yeah, yeah ... I know ... all of those kind of people ... they're all the same.

Originally Posted by TRFrance

(Again, it's more an opinion than a charge, but anyway...)

Oh, so you're not really saying she's a racist? Just that in your opinion she's a racist?

Originally Posted by TRFrance

An odious "charge" that I don't throw around lightly... but when it's deserved, its deserved.

So you didn't make the "charge", but then again, you did make the charge. And not only did you make the charge, but you did so with gravity and "not lightly?"

Did you make the charge or not?

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Not a hint?
Are you kidding me ?
Did I not direct you to a google search where you can see where her racial sentiments have been much discussed on many websites? ... in order for you to reach your own opinion, since you asked? you dont consider that a "hint"?

I followed that and even accepted Google's drop down selection for the search words you indicated. I scanned through several of the results. The first result was an extreme Marxist site that was attacking her with the same innuendo as you did. I found no quote of anything Michelle Malkin said that even sounded racist (context or not).

Originally Posted by TRFrance

I gave you a broad general idea of why I reached that conclusion. It is clearly somethig subject to interpretation, and a conclusion arrived at after seeing a continual pattern from her for a long time. There's no "quote" I can provide that could cause you to reach the same conclusion I did, neither is it important to me to convince you to have the same opinion I do on this.

At the end of the day, it's an opinion based on observation. I dont have to prove an opinion to anyone.

No you do not. I agree. You can make any kind of charge against someone that you want and then just leave that charge out there. Anyone who questions you about that charge is probably being unreasonable because we should all just accept whatever accusation you want to hurl without comment. That's why the Internet was made.

Originally Posted by TRFrance

Besides, some opinions simply cant be "proven" in any real sense. If I tell you I consider Toyotas to be better than Hondas, I can tell you why I came to that conclusion, but I cant "prove" that Toyotas are better, especially if you're inclined for whatever reason to believe otherwise anyway. If, at the end of the day you feel Hondas are better, that's your opinion, and you're entitled to it.

How do I assimilate "Michelle Malkin is a racist" into the Toyota/Honda analogy? Is the charge of "racism" just a preference? Can one person "prefer" to call Hitler a racist and another express a different persuasion?" Are both views correct?

Originally Posted by TRFrance

(Wow. And you tell me I'm too sensitive.)

Not true. I did not "come after you".
Show me how I attacked you, since you're implying I did.

My apologies, Pel, if you feel I attacked you. I don't see where I attacked you at all. Feel free to show me though.

I prefer to be of the opinion that you "bristled and came after me." This opinion of mine is as valid as your preference for whatever flavor of ice cream you prefer.

Originally Posted by TRFrance

If anything, you're the one who "poisoned the well" with your odious question/speculation that perhaps I dislike Filipinos. I didnt ask for, nor do I particularly desire, for you to apologize for that remark, because I let junk like that roll off my back... but that comment toward me was more hideous than anything I've said to you or anyone else on this thread.

I was simply "asking a question." I am free to ask a question aren't I? Just as you're free to slam people with innuendo and charges of racism. All that has happened here was that I stuck up for a girl who wasn't in the room to defend herself.