Monopoly on Apostolic Identity is no more .... - Page 12

Cindy · #**111** 02-02-2009, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by rgcraig

"glowing in those robes"???????

Tie-dyed!!!!!

edjen01 · #**112** 02-02-2009, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

The UPC was changed in a way that was unethical and deceitful. This betrayed a lot of people. I don't think we need to rehash the outright lies that were told to get the voting ministers to go along with an extra-parliamentary romp.

So what's wrong with "ex-UPCers" who point out these and other errors?

was the change ok....and just the way it was done unethical and deceitful?

ex-upcers are free to exercise thier 1st ammendment rights.

My question is why?

pelathais · #**113** 02-02-2009, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Ferd

if you are talking about 1992 then I dont disagree with you.

but that is a different argument than what is being brought here.

somehow we are sanitizing the history of the Apostolic movemennt because some UPCI preachers want to make sure we (the current UPCI) doesnt change its idenity?

two different things bro. Two very different things.

and just to be clear, I have some PCI roots. I am pretty well versed in what those old PCI guys taught. to suggest that they didnt have a distintive Apostilc idenity would be a false statement at best.

Their distinctive was compromised by a huge push right after the merger to establish one group's "identity" at the expense of the other. But if you don't agree that '92 was deceitful then you may not be that familiar with the events and the things that were done.

It was all done to "sanitize" the identy of the UPC and purge the PCI influence. When I was first licensed, every UPC minister was required to read the writings of John Dearing. Brother Dearing was excised and cut out without comment right after '92. Most of the resolutions and moves since the merger have beeen done to undermine an eclipse the influence of the "PCI's" approach to things.

Aquila · #**114** 02-02-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by HeavenlyOne

So, men, what do you think? How about ditching those britches for glowing in those robes?

Looking back at it I wonder why we always laid the burden of the vast majority of our standards on women. If the hair standard or a robe standard were required of us men...we'd assuredly have already examined it, found the truth, and dispensed of it. But since women are expected to be submissive, we cast the burden upon them and charge them with having a bad spirit if they struggle under the burden.

Aquila · #**115** 02-02-2009, 02:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cindy

Brother you have brought the outward into debate with the posts about your wife.

Sis. Cindy, I think you missed my point.

mizpeh · #**116** 02-02-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by pelathais

Their distinctive was compromised by a huge push right after the merger to establish one group's "identity" at the expense of the other. But if you don't agree that '92 was deceitful then you may not be that familiar with the events and the things that were done.

It was all done to "sanitize" the identy of the UPC and purge the PCI influence. When I was first licensed, every UPC minister was required to read the writings of John Dearing. Brother Dearing was excised and cut out without comment right after '92.

Pel, Ferd agrees with you. He used a double negative in his sentence.

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Originally Posted by Ferd
if you are talking about 1992 then I dont disagree with you.

but that is a different argument than what is being brought here.

Aquila · #**117** 02-02-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by TRFrance

Nice dodge Aquila, but that didnt answer the question.

I'll try again.

Ya liked that one huh.

Seriously, I don't know... maybe. Jesus rebuked the Pharisees and Paul was called to rebuke the Judaizers. There has always been a war against both sin and religion.

revrandy · #**118** 02-02-2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Sis. Cindy, I think you missed my point.

Who did you guys meet with and discuss these things concerning your new found revelations?

Was it someone from here on AFF?

Cindy · #**119** 02-02-2009, 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Aquila

Sis. Cindy, I think you missed my point.

I may have. Y'all are still in my prayers and hope I am in yours.

Innocuous · #**120** 02-02-2009, 03:02 PM

When I hear of groups making issues of their 'dinstinctives' and their 'identity' I'm reminded of settlers who circled the wagons. When the wagons are circled the wagon train aint goin anywhere. The problem is that once wagons are circled they generally don't get back in a straight line. It's a death knell.

"PERCHANCE he for whom this bell tolls may be so ill, as that he knows not it tolls for him; and perchance I may think myself so much better than I am, as that they who are about me, and see my state, may have caused it to toll for me, and I know not that."

The bells began tolling in earnest for the UPC in 1992. The UPC has lost the vision and it's mission has changed.

If the UPC is obscure now (on the larger landscape of Christendom), give it another ten years and see where it is then if they continue on this path. God is willing to snuff out the UPC candle and move on.