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Re: Bait and Switch: Pentecostal Deception?
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Originally Posted by pentecostalguy
I agree with what Brother Edward has to say. I think many on here have missed the point of thread. The thread is not to discuss holiness or if holiness standards should be abided by. The thread is simply a question do we think its right or wrong for a church that believes in standards to not mention standards at all to people wanting to convert. As a Pentecostal that believes in standards it has never set right with me that we don't mention to people wanting to convert what we really believe. My previous pastor used to say well the goal is to get them baptized first then a little later we will tell everything else we believe in. I have always felt that to be wrong at some point we need to be upfront with people wanting to convert and tell them exactly what we believe. A person should know exactly what they are getting into. Back in the day I remember some preachers would talk to a person right before baptism and restate the standards and make sure that person was willing to make such a commitment to God.
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Don't you think the idea is that once a person is baptized and receives the Holy Ghost they will be more receptive to the non biblical legalism that is going to be thrust upon them?
To upfront, in every evangelistic service I guess, go down the clothesline of what will be expected of them IF they come to an altar, repent, are baptized, and receive the Holy Ghost seems absurd to me.
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"We did not wear uniforms. The lady workers dressed in the current fashions of the day, ...silks...satins...jewels or whatever they happened to possess. They were very smartly turned out, so that they made an impressive appearance on the streets where a large part of our work was conducted in the early years.
"It was not until long after, when former Holiness preachers had become part of us, that strict plainness of dress began to be taught.
"Although Entire Sanctification was preached at the beginning of the Movement, it was from a Wesleyan viewpoint, and had in it very little of the later Holiness Movement characteristics. Nothing was ever said about apparel, for everyone was so taken up with the Lord that mode of dress seemingly never occurred to any of us."
Quote from Ethel Goss (widow of 1st UPC Gen Supt. Howard Goss) book "The Winds of God"
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