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Old 03-25-2009, 12:53 PM
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We won't be going back to eating doves dung do you think?
Actually, the dove's dung is the root of a plant called the "Star of Bethlehem" that is ground to make bread. It's not really dung from a bird.
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Part of moving on is telling the story. If we are still telling it years later, moving on hasn't taken place.
It is an EX-site and she hates the truth. No smileys.
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Part of moving on is telling the story. If we are still telling it years later, moving on hasn't taken place.

I totally disagree with you - I have a personal situation myself and I have "moved on" but I have used the story with others that have gone through what I went through because I wanted them to know I understood Hopefully, I gave them helpful information on how I got through it - You can move on without forgetting. My situation made me stronger so why would I want to forget it - I share with others how it made me the person I am.
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Actually, the dove's dung is the root of a plant called the "Star of Bethlehem" that is ground to make bread. It's not really dung from a bird.
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(2 Kings 6:25) has been generally understood literally. There are instances in history of the dung of pigeons being actually used as food during a famine. Compare also the language of Rabshakeh to the Jews (2 Kings 18:27; Isa. 36:12). This name, however, is applied by the Arabs to different vegetable substances, and there is room for the opinion of those who think that some such substance is here referred to, as, e.g., the seeds of a kind of millet, or a very inferior kind of pulse, or the root of the ornithogalum, i.e., bird-milk, the star-of-Bethlehem.
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One time I had a pastor look cross-eyed at me.

I left and have never been back.

I'm still in therapy.
LOL. You're good man Ed.

You want me to make a list of "one time..." from my own experiences? I know it would be a straight ticket to a week vacation from AFF in Ban City. But it's all true. Painful, ugly, incredible, disturburbing but true.

Let's start with that one time when my pastor's attempt at "outreach" resulted in my being interrogated by local police and Federal agents for over 6 hours.

Problems do arise in these pastor/saint relationships.
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I totally disagree with you - I have a personal situation myself and I have "moved on" but I have used the story with others that have gone through what I went through because I wanted them to know I understood Hopefully, I gave them helpful information on how I got through it - You can move on without forgetting. My situation made me stronger so why would I want to forget it - I share with others how it made me the person I am.
You are correct, but I was referring to those who merely continue telling the story to get advice but never take it. Sorry for the confusion!
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Dove's dung

(2 Kings 6:25) has been generally understood literally. There are instances in history of the dung of pigeons being actually used as food during a famine. Compare also the language of Rabshakeh to the Jews (2 Kings 18:27; Isa. 36:12). This name, however, is applied by the Arabs to different vegetable substances, and there is room for the opinion of those who think that some such substance is here referred to, as, e.g., the seeds of a kind of millet, or a very inferior kind of pulse, or the root of the ornithogalum, i.e., bird-milk, the star-of-Bethlehem.
The scriptures cited by your source have nothing to do with eating bird poopy. LOL! I will stay with the "Star of Bethlehem".
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ORNITHOGALUM UMBELLATUM, DOVE'S DUNG, STAR-OF-BETHLEHEM is a plant of Northern Africa, Asia Minor and Europe. The bulbs, says Johnson, are very nutritious and form a palatabile and wholesome food when boiled. In the East they are often eaten and were probably the dove's dung mentioned in the Bible.
http://food.oregonstate.edu/glossary/o/oplant47.html
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The Star of Bethlehem is a bulbous plant nearly allied to the Onion and Garlic.

The leaves are long and narrow and dark green; the flowers, in bloom during April and May, are a brilliant white internally, but with the petals striped with green outside. They expand only in the sunshine.

The bulbs, in common with those of many Liliaceous plants, are edible and nutritious. They were in ancient times eaten, both raw and cooked, as Dioscorides related, and form a palatable and wholesome food when boiled. They are still often eaten in the East, being roasted like chestnuts, and Linnaeus and others considered that they were probably the 'Dove's Dung' mentioned in the Second Book of Kings, vi. 25, as being sold at a high price during the siege of Samaria by the King of Syria, when 'the fourth part of a cab of dove's dung was sold for five pieces of silver.' The Greek name, Ornithogalum, signifies the 'birds' milk flower.' The plains of Syria and Palestine are sheeted in spring with the white flowers of a species of Star of Bethlehem, the bulbs of which are used as food, and are still called by the Arabs, 'Dove's Dung,' a name in common use among them for vegetable substances. Bochart tells us that the Arabs give this name to a moss that grows on trees and stony ground, and also to a pulse or pea, which appears to have been common in India. Large quantities of the bulb, it is stated, were parched and dried and stored at Cairo and Damascus, being much used during journeys, and especially by the great pilgrim caravans to Mecca.
http://www.botanical.com/botanical/mgmh/s/starbe89.html
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You are correct, but I was referring to those who merely continue telling the story to get advice but never take it. Sorry for the confusion!
Oh - yeah - hate dealing with those that love to just soak in their misery - I also move on from those pretty quicklyn
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Ruins the ground. Ask those who buy farms from the Amish because nothing will grow after about ten years.
You have to pile it up and let it stink and rot for a while. Depending on the size of the manure pile it could take a few years. It's the old and well rotted manure that your soil needs. To "fresh" stuff is often too "hot" - too much nitrogen and a lot of times sulphur.

That's why a lot of guys mix straw with their corral's compost. It soaks up the nitrogen.
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