Ain't that the truth? It's also a great place to spread the message "My pastor is a moron!"
Well, maybe you are so unfortunate; and I was for a very long time. Things are better for me now. I hope you can get that situation turned around as well.
Didn't say that. But, if one's pastor is a moron, well, better just to find a new church and (can't believe I'm going to say this) GET OVER IT!
Is that always the answer? Maybe that explains why we have these large "mobile congregations" in places where Pentecost has been established for a century. Are all the pastors "morons?"
How about some sort of mechanism whereby the saints who have invested their lives and finances, sometimes over the course of generations, can "get a new pastor" without having to throw their lives away?
In other words, why can't the "moron" be put out to pasture? Why is it that the saints are always the ones given walking papers?
Is that always the answer? Maybe that explains why we have these large "mobile congregations" in places where Pentecost has been established for a century. Are all the pastors "morons?"
How about some sort of mechanism whereby the saints who have invested their lives and finances, sometimes over the course of generations, can "get a new pastor" without having to throw their lives away?
Yeah, hadn't thought through all the ramifications before I posted!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Is that always the answer? Maybe that explains why we have these large "mobile congregations" in places where Pentecost has been established for a century. Are all the pastors "morons?"
How about some sort of mechanism whereby the saints who have invested their lives and finances, sometimes over the course of generations, can "get a new pastor" without having to throw their lives away?
In other words, why can't the "moron" be put out to pasture?
I'm sure David wondered the same thing about King Saul.
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His banner over me is LOVE.... My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. Jesus saith unto her, Said I not unto thee, that, if thou wouldest believe, thou shouldest see the glory of God?
To be a servant of God, it will cost us our total commitment to God, and God alone. His burden must be our burden... Sis Alvear
Is that always the answer? Maybe that explains why we have these large "mobile congregations" in places where Pentecost has been established for a century. Are all the pastors "morons?"
How about some sort of mechanism whereby the saints who have invested their lives and finances, sometimes over the course of generations, can "get a new pastor" without having to throw their lives away?
In other words, why can't the "moron" be put out to pasture? Why is it that the saints are always the ones given walking papers?
Yeah! Right on, bro! VIVA LA RAZA!
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Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
I am trying to understand this After 13 years of membership at my church, I developed degenerative disc disease. This condition made it difficult for me to sit or stand for prolonged periods. Because of this I would oftentimes have to leave services immediately after the preaching, therefore missing the altar call. I was secretary and C. F. O. of our church, my husband was a minister in good standing. Well one day Pastor called and said that he thought that I shouldn't continue attending. I suggested that I could maybe start coming after worship service, that way I could be there for the preaching and the altar call. All he said was he thought I shouldn't keep coming. I told no one at church about this conversation. I simply did what Pastor said. This has left my spirit broken.
To this day I do not know why I was asked to leave.
Peace, Sinatra
Do like Paul Harvey, give us the rest of the story.
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Isaiah 35:8, Even a fool can live for Jesus
In a situation where silence is the norm, it's often difficult to tell if we were left with a mortal head wound or a concussion. That's why I personally oppose the policy of "SILENCE" that is endemic in Pentecostal / Apostolic churches. We need to be able to speak up and share our concerns - even if the answer is, "It was a glancing blow..." that information is much better than the unknown.
Very good points.
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Originally Posted by Mr. Steinway
ding! ding! ding! We have a winner!
Preachers talk about situations with other preachers, and saints talk about situations with other saints. Sometimes you just want to know that you're not losing your mind!
Preachers have a little more freedom to discuss their problem saints than saints have to discuss their problem preachers, honestly. A preacher can talk to a preacher friend about a nutty saint, and they can commiserate with each other. But if your pastor is acting nutty your options are fairly limited, especially if you want to keep a good, respectful attitude.
I think hurts need to be addressed, not swept under the rug and ignored.
Having said that, I think most preachers are good, honest, God-loving, people-loving people.
I'm sure David wondered the same thing about King Saul.
A political kingship in the ancient world does not bear a one-to-one correlation to the administration of New Testament churches. In the New Testament elders were ordained to serve as the leadership of individual churches (Acts 11:30; Acts 14:23; Acts 20:17; Titus 1:5; James 5:14; 1 Peter 5:1).
The "kingship" of the pastor is not a Biblical office and is a contrivance invented by man. This un-Biblical procedure has led to much hurt and has hindered effective evangelism.
My soul followeth hard after thee....Love one another with a pure heart fervently. 
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