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Old 03-27-2009, 06:21 PM
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Heyyyy, wait a minute. You didn't answer my question!

If the question is "will every prayer be answered 'yes'"...then I say no. I don't believe that prayer will change what is "appointed" to happen. However, I do believe that it can change anything else. I can honestly say that I have been in situations where prayer saved and changed my life. Will prayer save my life when it is the appointed time for me to die? I don't believe so.
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Old 03-28-2009, 08:48 AM
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If the question is "will every prayer be answered 'yes'"...then I say no. I don't believe that prayer will change what is "appointed" to happen. However, I do believe that it can change anything else. I can honestly say that I have been in situations where prayer saved and changed my life. Will prayer save my life when it is the appointed time for me to die? I don't believe so.
That wasn't the exact question. Too far back to see without binoculars? Luckily, I still remember it:

"But, isn't prayer the most powerful thing in the universe?"

But you bring up a good point. Are there things that are appointed to happen, and no amount of prayer will change it? Are there other things that will play out in one of several ways depending on what prayers, if any, are offered up? This would imply that God insists on some things happening, and doesn't care so much about others: could go either way. He's ready and willing to heal Jane Doe, if someone prays for her (and, er, not against her!). No prayer, no healing. Joe Bloe may not be so lucky: no amount of prayer will change God's mind. Interesting.

Applying this to the plane crash, I suppose it was destined, prayer or not, steering or not. So, who can blame the poor pilot?

But I guess you indirectly answered my question. It seems that prayer isn't always powerful. In fact, sometimes it's utterly futile. Anybody else want to weigh in?
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Old 03-28-2009, 10:16 AM
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Oh, sorry, you startled me!

Yeah, just waiting for a comment on my comment. That one, way up there!


Timmy, I don't agree with you about much theologically, but I love your posts anyway! You're a hoot. Your posts usually always crack me up.
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Timmy, I don't agree with you about much theologically, but I love your posts anyway! You're a hoot. Your posts usually always crack me up.
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