Why aren't we dealing with the "FAT" factor?

[BoJangles]

Originally Posted by Ferd

My wife found a friend on Face Book from highschool.

she is now a Plus sized Model.

Now good for this girl, I am not taking shots...

but she was never pentecostal in any form... just making the point that this isnt a "upc" thing.

It is not only a UPC thing, but at the same time it is an issue with many UPC people.

[Ferd]

Originally Posted by BoJangles

It is not only a UPC thing, but at the same time it is an issue with many UPC people.

Bro. its an American thing and the folk you are talking about I suspect are Americans.


Now I will agree that we ought to be open to discussing the weight issue that America has in our churches for the purpose of helping our people.


but there isnt any way at all, you are going to convince me that the UPCI has a "weight issue" that is out of line with the rest of America.

[KWSS1976]

Someone start a UPC gym and when the treadmill get going to fast and the lady in the skirt can only extend her legs so far because of it mabey we can catch it on youtube..LOL

[BoJangles]

Originally Posted by RandyWayne

This subject is far deeper then weight. It is about overall appearances and how rapidly people seem to age in church.

Once your married (which usually happens at a young age), there is no longer ANY reason to look good (or 'sexy' if I am allowed to use that word).

I remember Chris Hall talking about his wife during their "conservative" era and how (he said) she felt so bad for looking like a "granny" at age 30 due to dress requirements. I remember this because I have seen it personally again and again.

(Life is not fair. It is far easier for a 30 year woman to dress and look like a 60 year old then it is for a guy to do likewise.... it is just the nature of men and women fashions.)

I think it is un fair to women and men.

Yes some pentecostal woman take good care of them self and look attractive.

But to label unattractiveness and say it's holy and expect the opposite sex to find it attractive is problematic. Just because you call something holy doesn't mean it's pretty.



So, who is a woman suppose to please, her pastor? Her church? Or her husband? Aren't women suppose to be attractive to their husbands? Aren't their feelings important. What if they do not find their 50lb over weight wife attractive...including her granny hairdo?

...because she is suppose to please God? Come on-

[KWSS1976]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jt5n-4v9_PI

[Jack Shephard]

Perhaps it is not talked about cause that would literally be preaching and stepping on toes and getting in their kitchen for sure. I think that it is SUPER-FUTILE-if I can coin that-to preach 'holiness standards' and yet look as big as a house. I know there are health issues....I have that in my family. But there is always something that can be done to change ones health with the help from God people can change this stuff and be healthier.

[BoJangles]

Originally Posted by Ferd

Bro. its an American thing and the folk you are talking about I suspect are Americans.


Now I will agree that we ought to be open to discussing the weight issue that America has in our churches for the purpose of helping our people.


but there isnt any way at all, you are going to convince me that the UPCI has a "weight issue" that is out of line with the rest of America.

Look up cardboard testimonies on youtube.

The one with the most unattractive over weight women are the ones from a UPC church.

We want to deny that this is an issue in the UPC.

And a poor guy has to live with a woman who is basically forced to look like a granny like Wayne said.

This does not apply to everyone, but it does apply to the UPC.

I know it is a difficult issue, it is painful. But it is true.


I am not a brother btw. I'm a sister-

[Pastor Keith]

Originally Posted by Ferd

My wife found a friend on Face Book from highschool.

she is now a Plus sized Model.

Now good for this girl, I am not taking shots...

but she was never pentecostal in any form... just making the point that this isnt a "upc" thing.

But it is an issue and someone better start to deal with it, we losing a great generation of preachers early because of health/weight issue.

I have studied this issue extensively and have personally experienced being heavy.

Oneness Pentecostals most likely are above average (higher percentage of the average population) are using food to deal with negative moods.

While food is necessary, it can be used a drug to bring pleasure, and when you have negative moods, OP's don't reach for a pill or bottle, they reach for Big Macs, Cake, Ice Cream, Late night steak dinners etc.

[BoJangles]

Originally Posted by JTULLOCK

Perhaps it is not talked about cause that would literally be preaching and stepping on toes and getting in their kitchen for sure. I think that it is SUPER-FUTILE-if I can coin that-to preach 'holiness standards' and yet look as big as a house. I know there are health issues....I have that in my family. But there is always something that can be done to change ones health with the help from God people can change this stuff and be healthier.

I think people in a religious system- not just UPC, think they are not suppose to "feel" any thing negative, so instead of dealing with an negative emotion or thought they stuff it with food.

And Addict is still an addict, just because it is food doesn't mean you don't have an addiction.

[Timmy]

Treadmill brilliance!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pv5zWaTEVkI