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Old 06-05-2009, 04:00 PM
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Re: Irresistible Ideas?

i didnt say anyhting about how i felt about it you did if people are going to make statenments back it up with facts and names obviously it isnt a secret to most someone said a current board member had one who is it ? this how you stop rumors! btw my dad was a upc pioneer minster and was until his passing on and i still consider myself upc definitely not a liberal but not so called ultra con either !
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Should we dam the raging river of liberalism with sandbags of gradualism? Not sure what you mean here Ed.

Is it possible to stop the current culture shift within our movement? No.

Should we try to stop it? No

Should we give in to it? If you are refering to liberalism as ole time OP tradition and man made standards, Yes.

Should we try to "manage" it? Oh yeah, that's worked so well in the past.

Is this culture shift inevitable? Absolutley.

Is it too late to do anything about it? The UPC uis about 50 years behind the times, so yeah it's probably to late. But lets try anyway. The mother ship is all we got.
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Old 06-05-2009, 04:13 PM
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like the old detective said ,just the facts mam just the facts
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Old 06-05-2009, 05:20 PM
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Is it too late to do anything about it? The UPC uis about 50 years behind the times, so yeah it's probably to late. But lets try anyway. The mother ship is all we got.
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LOL! Reminds me of a conversation my wife and I had, talking about what sight-seeing we would do while based in Vegas. Kinda wanted to see the Hoover dam, but the distance, the cost, blah blah. Finally, I said, "oh, let's skip the dam tour!" And so it was settled.
Now that's a steal from the Griswald's Vegas Vacation...

I remember the dam tour well... LOL!
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Now that's a steal from the Griswald's Vegas Vacation...

I remember the dam tour well... LOL!
Yeah, I thought of that just as I said it!
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