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Old 06-18-2009, 10:06 AM
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Re: Why Such A Fuss Over Standards!!

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You don't have a clue as to how much pain I have suffered through the
50 yrs. since that story I posted last. That was before and just after we
married. And the point was I LISTENED to my elders. It saved me pain I
didn't have to bear. But to say you don't think I know much about pain is
totally UNTRUE!. . Maybe it is because I don't tell every gory detail about
my life. Or maybe because I gave God my pain instead of allowing it to
spring up a root of bitterness. I count my BLESSINGS, and sometimes I
count them one by one.
It is true, I don't have a clue. And you don't have a clue what pain people have experienced BECAUSE they listened to their elders. THAT is the pain I am speaking about that you are pretty unexperienced with. There are different types of pain and betrayal by your elders is some of the worst kind. You haven't experienced much of that and that is pretty evident.

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What standards are you speaking about? I have never tried to impose
standards on anyone.
You are the one that started the thread with the word "standards' in the line. You have talked about life standards, principles, and people getting bitter over sleeve lengths and sports. So, I suspect you mean all of these.

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I feel a spirit of "resistance" many times to my posts from some on this
forum. Also a spirit of "opposition". Resisting and opposing spirits are strong
spirits. Just what is it you feel toward my words?
I feel anger towards your words. The reason for this is, you have admitted repeatedly that you have had great support in your life and then find fault with those who didn't as if it was all their fault because they didn't "listen" to their elders. This amounts to nothing but a false accusation towards many who DID listen to their elders and it got them pain, suffering and misery. I am happy for your experience, but I would appreciate it if you did not invalidate the experiences of others simply because you had a good one.

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As to me knowing about pain OR searching, you don't know the half of it.
Instead of becoming BITTER I chose to become BETTER because of the pain
and suffering that came my way.
Fine. Is this an accusation that those who haven't come to your conclusions are bitter?

Read my bolded words from below:

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I don't think you know much about pain or searching, at least in this fashion. Instead of teaching, I think it's time to listen. Sorry if this sounds harsh to you. It's nothing compared to what many have experienced. [/B]
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In this fashion. What fashion is that? In the fashion of elders who betrayed you. You are inexperienced in that. You have been supported. Good for you. I am happy for you. You talk about one experience of betrayal. Perhaps you have had others as well. Not everyone has been so blessed to be supported.

This is not a WHINE about my hurts but about YOU starting a thread that says basically that if you had just respected and listened to your elders, you would think like Falla39 and you would not be bitter because Falla39 is not and you would be happy like Falla39 is.

Don't come on here and start threads like this and not expect to be challenged. I say these things respectfully, whether you think I do or not.
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