Re: How were you treated when changed your standar
JD,
I do think that there is value in studying the Scriptures and working out one's salvation with fear and trembling. Do I think that this includes whether one wears long sleeves or whether one believes women should never cut their hair or what other thing the women folk can and can't do (because let's face it, you're only as strict as you are with your standards with the women, because the men have VERY few)...
There are things I do that people could look at and call standards, but not because I believe they give me some anointing. I always swim with a shirt on, I would feel uncomfortable otherwise. I dress modest at the gym. I don't wear shorts to church services, in fact, I can't remember the last time I wore jeans to a church service. These dressing things are such a minimal part of my life. To be quite honest, I have to walk circumspectly, and fear and tremble before GOD a lot more, than I have to remember (I don't even really have to remember) to wear a t-shirt in the pool. I've got to keep my eyes focused on JESUS and not on girls in the world or sisters in the church. I have to control what comes out of my mouth, because, truthfully, I have lacked self-control on the things I have spoken in the past. I need to keep in mind the things I can do to help my brethren, and I need to know my own spiritual state, for when I need to ask a brother for help, or confess something to a brother or my pastor to get me back on track. I don't need accountability in my life for wearing a t-shirt in the pool, I need accountability for a brother to ask me, "How is your walk, how is your speaking- is it edifying, are your eyes focused on JESUS?"
We need to focus on becoming perfected on the inside and for our outside, just remember these things; be modest and be clean (after all a slovenly looking saint on the outside is not a very good witness of a GOD who values order).
Re: How were you treated when changed your standar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Baron1710
What? No magical hair? I been growing this stuff out for almost a year now and you tell me it is not magic?
I don't think so.
Maybe there is someone who can testify otherwise, but I'd probably still not believe them.
I was hoping to find someone that could expound upon how that the discipline developed in keeping a standard helped them to become more effective in their ministry-- more anointed.
I was hoping to find someone that could expound upon the fact that they hold no standards and are still mightily used of God-- with Him witnessing through anointing your ministry.
I was hoping to find straight answers, one way or the other.
__________________
"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Re: How were you treated when changed your standar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sept5SavedTeen
JD,
I do think that there is value in studying the Scriptures and working out one's salvation with fear and trembling. Do I think that this includes whether one wears long sleeves or whether one believes women should never cut their hair or what other thing the women folk can and can't do (because let's face it, you're only as strict as you are with your standards with the women, because the men have VERY few)...
There are things I do that people could look at and call standards, but not because I believe they give me some anointing. I always swim with a shirt on, I would feel uncomfortable otherwise. I dress modest at the gym. I don't wear shorts to church services, in fact, I can't remember the last time I wore jeans to a church service. These dressing things are such a minimal part of my life. To be quite honest, I have to walk circumspectly, and fear and tremble before GOD a lot more, than I have to remember (I don't even really have to remember) to wear a t-shirt in the pool. I've got to keep my eyes focused on JESUS and not on girls in the world or sisters in the church. I have to control what comes out of my mouth, because, truthfully, I have lacked self-control on the things I have spoken in the past. I need to keep in mind the things I can do to help my brethren, and I need to know my own spiritual state, for when I need to ask a brother for help, or confess something to a brother or my pastor to get me back on track. I don't need accountability in my life for wearing a t-shirt in the pool, I need accountability for a brother to ask me, "How is your walk, how is your speaking- is it edifying, are your eyes focused on JESUS?"
We need to focus on becoming perfected on the inside and for our outside, just remember these things; be modest and be clean (after all a slovenly looking saint on the outside is not a very good witness of a GOD who values order).
-Bro. Alex
Thank you for the advice.
__________________
"The choices we make reveal the true nature of our character."
Re: How were you treated when changed your standar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I don't think so.
Maybe there is someone who can testify otherwise, but I'd probably still not believe them.
I was hoping to find someone that could expound upon how that the discipline developed in keeping a standard helped them to become more effective in their ministry-- more anointed.
I was hoping to find someone that could expound upon the fact that they hold no standards and are still mightily used of God-- with Him witnessing through anointing your ministry.
I was hoping to find straight answers, one way or the other.
They have testified. Stories abound of hair healing and protecting husbands and children. You don't believe them? You sound like me.
__________________
Hebrews 13:23 Know ye that our brother Timothy is set at liberty
Re: How were you treated when changed your standar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
Ok.
But seriously, is there or couldn't there be some value to standards-- or is there no value at all?
If there is some value, is there enough value to alter the effectiveness of one's ministry?
Maybe standards should be only for those in ministry-- but does that make sense?
JD.. IMO, I do not believe that "outward" standards do have an effect on a man's ministry (per the anointing). I do think that God honors a person's ministry when He upholds Biblical standards. I also believe when it comes to "outward" standards, if the person is doing the "outward" because of a personal conviction or as a form of consecration to God; then God honors that. However, I do not think not having "outward" standards is going to lessen the anointing on a person's ministry.
IMO, it is your consecration and desdication to God that affects ministry.(anointing). Again, IMO, it's the time spent on your face praying and the time spent in The Word that affects your minstry. I believe that it's your day to day walk, and your obedience to the Word that affects your ministry. IMO, if your "outward" is done out of your consecration and convictions, I think it would affect your anointing. However, if a person doesn't have a personal conviction for certain standards and there's not Bible to support it; then IMO, I don't think it would affect "how much" of the anointing is on a person's ministry.
FTR... These are my opinions and nothing else. As I tell my dc when it comes to opinions everybody has one....but that doesn't mean it is the correct one. The same applies to me and my opinions.
__________________
Getting over a painful experience is much like crossing monkey bars. You have to let go at some point in order to move forward.
Re: How were you treated when changed your standar
Quote:
Originally Posted by Jermyn Davidson
I don't think so.
Maybe there is someone who can testify otherwise, but I'd probably still not believe them.
I was hoping to find someone that could expound upon how that the discipline developed in keeping a standard helped them to become more effective in their ministry-- more anointed.
I was hoping to find someone that could expound upon the fact that they hold no standards and are still mightily used of God-- with Him witnessing through anointing your ministry.
Before I got to the place where I felt I had to follow the party line on standards I was always plagued by fear that I did not measure up enough for God to use me and I won very few people to Christ. Since I was freed from man fear I not only have great freedom in ministry but I have literally seen hundreds of people come to Jesus and I have seen many miracles of healing, deliverance and restoration.
I was hoping to find straight answers, one way or the other.
I have seen some very anointed people with standards - and I have seen some very anointed people who some would say did not have standards. My conclusion is that the issue is not whether a person holds a particular standard but it is why does a person hold a particular standard?
If you have changed your standards out of rebellion or from a new since of "self fulfillment" then you may be following the wrong path. If you have changed your standards because you have God given convictions then you are probably on the right track.
I personally sense a greater anointing in my ministry because I can function without being concerned about how someone else is going to judge me. I am free of "man fear". My only concern is am I giving honor to the Lord of my life and that gives us great freedom in ministry.
Last edited by HopePreacher; 06-20-2009 at 01:25 PM.
Linear Mode
