A question for the Holiness Apostolics.....

[Shawn]

it always comes back to what is sound doctrine.......what's true doctrine and what's been fabricated by men. What's been handed down from a God who loves us and is in love with us, or what's been produced by man to control.

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Shawn

it always comes back to what is sound doctrine.......what's true doctrine and what's been fabricated by men. What's been handed down from a God who loves us and is in love with us, or what's been produced by man to control.

A big resounding AMEN

[bozo80]

Originally Posted by Rev Dooley

Funny that that's all you saw in the post.
God said to be holy, not me.
It isn't all about dress as I have stated elsewhere, but dress is certainly an extension of it.
Incidentally, God said to BE holy. Sounds like an order to me.
But, then again the liberals are all against someone telling them to do something that they "feel" isn't right. It isn't about what someone feels, but about what the Bible says.
Is that clear enough?
NI

BTW: who is CS?

Aman!

[bozo80]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

So sad when carnality blinds one to holiness. But then, some refuse to make themselves right before God, and prefer to just be just enough to seem holy without a true inward conversion of the heart to regulate the entire life.

Aman!

[bozo80]

Originally Posted by Brother Price

Felicity,

One thing to be holy. Another to be insulted.

Holiness is a commandment, and one that should be followed whole heartedly. Refusal to do so in not true holiness. Compassion and holiness go hand in hand, but truth is always going to be truth.

I stand by my statements.

Aman!

[bozo80]

Originally Posted by Rev Dooley

Russ Taff is singing that we need to stop being divided against one another, that we are all walking the same road. I beg to differ.
For us to be walking the same road, we would all believe the same basic things doctrinally since that is the path upon which we tread. We do not.

I do not walk the same road as a trinitarian. They believe that God is three persons. I do not.

Many here do not believe in separation from the world. I do.

Some churches teach that as long as you have received partial salvation, if you die before receiving all of it then you are okay. To that I say: BALONEY!!!

We cannot come together for this reason: Jesus said that He came not to bring peace, but a sword that would divide.
This doctrine has always divided. It divides between the saved and the lost. It can never find the unity with belial, though some have tried to inject their worldly ways into it to blur lines of consecration. This has brought the division into UPC and other orgs, not those who want to continue to walk in holiness. It is the liberal bent to continue to disrupt those things which require that they give up their worldliness. In doing so, they will then be able to answer the call of ecumenism and become just like the rest of the so-called church world.
I refuse. I will continue to follow God.
NI

Aman!

[Godsdrummer]

Originally Posted by Rev Dooley

Should men wear shorts? NO.
Should women cut their hair? NO.
Should women wear makeup? NO. (The Bible does have a place for it, but it is only during a time of mourning. Otherwise it is for the harlots.)

Do I love those who reject holiness standards per se? YES.

Will I fellowship them as in eating and visiting with them? YES.
Will I fellowship them for preaching? NO.

Do I consider them to be saved or lost? That's God's decision. My job is to reach all who will not accept the Bible and live according to holiness.

It does say to be ye holy for I am holy. If someone rejects this and refuses to live holy, will they be lost COOPER?
What say you?

Wow

I used to define holiness that way but but I could not find any where in the bible that made a list like that in discribing holiness. Now the works of the flesh yes but a holiness standard based on dress no!!! If you want to dress one way that is your conviction but know that separation from the world has nothing to do with the way you dress ohter than one being modest. It was less then 300 years ago when common people Christian and sinner dressed the same way where was the sepration then? Performance based religions have a Pharisee attitude and Jesus told us what he thought of that when he said they would travel land and sea to make one convert and make them seven times the child of hell as they were.

Romans chapter 14 tells us that weaker christians should not judge those that are stronger in Christ and that is just what you do. Jesus said judge not lest ye be judged. Just because a Christian does not wear the same clothes as you do does not mean they are not a child of the king. If God has given them the Holy Ghost he has recieved them who are you to say they are not saved?

You say they just want to be like the world, I say they have studied the word of God and found that the traditions of holiness are not founded on sound word of God and have left holiness churches to grow spiritualy in God in ways holiness churches will never grow because they are too wrapped up in the outside that God could not speak to them if they had on a hearing aid.

I guess it is at this time I should say I am sorry if I offended you. But you have blatently offended many true Christians by your holyer than thou attitude

[mfblume]

Holiness is not how a person dresses. Pharisees, wolves in SHEEP'S CLOTHING, love that idea, though.