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Old 04-16-2007, 10:48 AM
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I'm turned off by this level of false piety.
Excuse me? False piety? Is it false piety to as a QUESTION about what someone is saying?

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There was no sin committed.
Go back to the statement to which I was responding and then look at my question in that context.



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Rigid adherence to all rules is UNNATURAL. Perfection is a goal to be attained by GROWTH and not by INSTANT attainment.
And trying to justify sin is acceptable? No one here said anything about instant attainment of perfection. The point you either missed or are trying to dance around is that our being imperfect does not justify doing what's wrong. As for your ridiculous comment about "rigid adherence," do you REALLY think God allows any flexibility when it comes to obeying His commands? Saul tried making your argument and God took his kingdom away from him. Uzzah was killed BY GOD because there was not "rigid adherence" to God's command.



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Yes. That is if he meant for that state of perfection was something to be instantly attained without the benefit of growth.
Again, NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT INSTANT ATTAINMENT!

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Jesus was not RANK NUT. Jesus was no IDIOT!
No one suggested any such thing.

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He knew full well that perfection was attained by wisdom, growth, guidance of which all is accomplished by love.
Again, NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT INSTANT ATTAINMENT!!!!!!!!!!!



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Instant transformation into a state of perfection is totally unnatural. Jesus did not have a limp wrist either. He probably made a few paper hornets himself when he was a boy. Yet, he never sinned.
Again, NO ONE SAID ANYTHING ABOUT INSTANT ATTAINMENT!!!!!!!!!!!

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Gracious! Some peoples attitude of Jesus make him so unnatural and far removed from his humanity when he was here among us, until he is perceived as some unnatural humanoid totally unlike any of us. No wonder some people never ever come to really relate to and come to know Jesus.
I call your attention to Hebrews 7:25-27...

"Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. For such an high priest became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens; Who needeth not daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifice, first for his own sins, and then for the people's: for this he did once, when he offered up himself."

Note also 2 Corinthians 6:17...

"Wherefore come out from among them, and be ye separate, saith the Lord, and touch not the unclean thing; and I will receive you."


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Believe me. Jesus made paper hornets. He probably had a few cow patty wars too when he was about nine or ten. So feel free to call it blasphemy.
Oh, yes, and some guy who one time said that Jesus used to sit with him and watch Laverne and Shirley or used to splash around in the swimming pool with him had a godly view of Jesus too!
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