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Old 07-20-2009, 03:19 PM
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Re: Con-to-Lib "Hybrid" Churches: Let's be Honest

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Notice something I think we miss. He has written HIS LAW upon our hearts. Meaning through the Holy Ghost he has given us a desire to obey his Law. Not that he writes different laws on different hearts. So yes, you’re right. We obey him and love him and we obey out of love. However, that doesn’t mean that God tells a person to do something like wear only long sleeves and doesn’t tell their brother the same… only to turn around and condemn the brother he told for wearing short sleeves and not the brother who’s been wearing them all along. If a man tells me, “God told me not to eat bagels.” I know instantly that God never told him that. lol If a woman tells me “God told me not to wear pants.” I’ll ask, “Do you believe it’s a sin to wear pants? Will pants send a person to Hell?” If she answers, “No, pants aren’t a sin; I just feel more modest in a skirt.”, perhaps she’s heard from God. If she says, “Yes, pants are a sin.” I know she’s not heard from God. The Bible doesn’t condemn people for wearing certain styles of clothing. Just as God wouldn’t condemn a man for wearing short sleeves. The general rule of thumb is modesty. After all… if pants are a sin for women… then pants would be sin for men. Both have goodies to cover. And any honest woman will admit that you can see a man’s form in pants and many women do check it out.

Hey, that brings up an interesting point. If I (being a man) believed that pants were immodest in my heart… should I wear a skirt? lol

Also, keep in mind... we're not talking about disobeying specific orders regarding God's direct commands such as "go here and do this". We're talking about "standards". Yes... God might command an action and rebellion from that action would be a sin. However, God doesn't say, "Long sleeves are okay for you and sin for another." That's just too relative.
Whoa, step away from the myopic view of standards for 10 seconds and see this applies in such greater measures than these. Surely God speaks to us with more gravity than just what we choose to wear in the morning (though I believe the Holy Spirit will speak to us there too). This applies with the Holy Ghost checking us, confirmed by witnesses, prophetic word, etc... and us refusing to obey God's voice (about where we should go, a situation we are handling in our life, a relationship, etc).

We do a disservice to God to discuss harmartiology within the tiny confinds as "standards."

Additionally, most would argue on this forum the whole point of standards is for God to lead us through the process of how we present ourselves, our bodies -- what we should watch, read, etc... and not necessarily dogmatized law chiseled out that we carry away. That's the whole point. Not for one man to bypass the process of justification by having everyone conform to rules, but have the grace of God working into our lives to bring us to good works and maturity. God still speaks, and he says a whole lot more than reciting the Mosaic Law.
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