1. I believe the citizenship issue is so unbelievable that the Republicans didn't investigate it early on. Nobody wanted to be called racist for checking out such a basic fact when it began to raise its head (too late in the game).
Finally, the election/race was also greatly changed and thrown into disarray because of an economic crisis (which the Arabs and Soros may have had their hand in). Do you understand that oil prices were going up because of speculation? Did you know that there was a run on American banks for millions upon millions of dollars just before Congress got involved?
2. Did you ever see the movie or read the book "Catch Me if You Can" or something like that.
It is a real life story of a con artist who was able to pull off incredible feats pretending to be different people because he learned the system and then figured out its weak points and acted so confidently that anyone who had reservations was made to feel like a fool for doubting.
Thus (if memory serves me right) he performed surgery, flew planes, cashed gigantic checks, etc and got away with it.
3. Likewise, Obama was the best chance for the socialist and communist (and perhaps the arabs) to move their agenda along. They cleared the path for him and did whatever cover up was needed. That is why he left no foot prints and has yet to produce a bonafide birth certificate.
Obama could have never gotten a first level pass at the White House so he walked in through the front door.
4. I believe that it is irrational to pay lawyers $2 million dollars to withhold one's birth certificate and create so much doubt if one isn't hiding something big.
5. I believe Obama and her enemies are out to break and remake America into a socialist state and that has been his objective from the beginning.
6. I totally believe what I have written.
Newman, with all do respect( and I mean that), your #1 is irrational and ridiculous. Think about what your saying. You're asking us to believe that the War room of the RNC and McCain campaign simply didn't check his citizenship out? The cizitenship question was raised early on and you can you believe that every vetter in the GOP picked it apart.
You really believe they just didn't "investigate it early on". That's not reasonable.
You can't escape the fact that had the GOP believed any of this dillusion they would have found a legal means IN COURT to have never let Obama be a candidate.
All of those other opinions you expressed explain why you are trying to believe the irrational. You've let your bias cloud your good judgment on the facts.
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Newman, with all do respect( and I mean that), your #1 is irrational and ridiculous. Think about what your saying. You're asking us to believe that the War room of the RNC and McCain campaign simply didn't check his citizenship out? The cizitenship question was raised early on and you can you believe that every vetter in the GOP picked it apart.
You really believe they just didn't "investigate it early on". That's not reasonable.
You can't escape the fact that had the GOP believed any of this dillusion they would have found a legal means IN COURT to have never let Obama be a candidate.
All of those other opinions you expressed explain why you are trying to believe the irrational. You've let your bias cloud your good judgment on the facts.
1. McCain was living in a glass house. His "natural born" citizenship isn't a sure thing. Why draw attention to this issue when it seemed that he was likely going to beat him on the issues (before the economy fell apart)?
2. It is too AUDACIOUS to think that a senator would attempt to run for president with his knowledge of Constitutional law and not have a bonafide birth certificate to show.
3. Remember the Media wasn't vetting him but rather an adoring audience. By the time there was honest doubt; it was too late for a black man to be shown the door without rioting in the street.
1. McCain was living in a glass house. His "natural born" citizenship isn't a sure thing. Why draw attention to this issue when it seemed that he was likely going to beat him on the issues (before the economy fell apart)?
2. It is too AUDACIOUS to think that a senator would attempt to run for president with his knowledge of Constitutional law and not have a bonafide birth certificate to show.
3. Remember the Media wasn't vetting him but rather an adoring audience. By the time there was honest doubt; it was too late for a black man to be shown the door without rioting in the street.
It takes more blind faith to believe the GOP swept his citizenship under the rug than it does to believe he is a U.S. citizen. Your 2+2 doesn't add up to 5.
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Newman, with all do respect( and I mean that), your #1 is irrational and ridiculous. Think about what your saying. You're asking us to believe that the War room of the RNC and McCain campaign simply didn't check his citizenship out? The cizitenship question was raised early on and you can you believe that every vetter in the GOP picked it apart.
You really believe they just didn't "investigate it early on". That's not reasonable.
You can't escape the fact that had the GOP believed any of this dillusion they would have found a legal means IN COURT to have never let Obama be a candidate.
All of those other opinions you expressed explain why you are trying to believe the irrational. You've let your bias cloud your good judgment on the facts.
WHAT IS THE RATIONALE REASON FOR SPENDING 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO KEEP THE ISSUE OUT OF COURT?
WHY NOT JUST SUBMIT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER AND ASK FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT?
Sorry for shouting but how am I not rational but this is?
WHAT IS THE RATIONALE REASON FOR SPENDING 2 MILLION DOLLARS TO KEEP THE ISSUE OUT OF COURT?
WHY NOT JUST SUBMIT THE BIRTH CERTIFICATE AS A PRELIMINARY MATTER AND ASK FOR SUMMARY JUDGMENT?
Sorry for shouting but how am I not rational but this is?
You're not rational because you are asking me to believe that the GOP just didn't vett a Presidential candidate of another party even when the issue had been brought up in full public view.
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It takes more blind faith to believe the GOP swept his citizenship under the rug than it does to believe he is a U.S. citizen. Your 2+2 doesn't add up to 5.
They didn't sweep it under the rug. They just didn't know if it was true or not. How were they suppose to know?
They would have had egg on their face had they pursued it early on and he produced his birth certificate. Why would they want to put themself in such a position back then when there was much less to go on?
They didn't sweep it under the rug. They just didn't know if it was true or not. How were they suppose to know?
They would have had egg on their face had they pursued it early on and he produced his birth certificate. Why would they want to put themself in such a position back then when there was much less to go on?
That's absurd. IF there was a shred of truth to this, the GOP would have been all over, as they should have been, and they would have brought the issue before a Court and it would have been settled.
You must think political parties don't try to ruin candidates of the other party. That's not how it works.
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Re: Supreme Court to Hear Case on Obama
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Twisp- You are absolutly correct. But the issue of natural born citizenship is not the same as citizenship. Natural born citizenship is citizenship on steroids.
It requires that BOTH parents are American citizens at the child's birth. [ The intent of the framers of the Constitution was that no one could be president who might have divided loyalties].
THE INTENT OF THE FRAMERS WAS CORRECT. AND WHAT DO WE HAVE, A PRESIDENT WITH DIVIDED LOYALTIES, IN SPITE OF THEIR CONCERNS!. and dont tell me im crazy, if you dont think so, listen to "abuma" as he can and does mimic the islamic call for prayer, with a perfect accent in arabic and says it is the most beutifull sound in the world at sunset and then says" this will give people in alabama a heart attack" correction abuma, it should have given anyone a heart atack. i cant believe people voted for him after hearing that and his statements on shutting the coal industry down . OUR LARGEST SOURCE OF ELECTRICAL POWER!. anyone that voted for him is blind and deaf
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A complete and total duck of my question. Surely you don't believe that the U.S. court system is powerless to expel a foreign candidate from seeking the Presidency? No one could gain standing in the right venue or jurisdiction? Baloney!
You explained your own cluelessness. You are clearly in comprendo regarding standing and venue.
You are sloppy in tying the two words together and they are not connected concepts.
That's absurd. IF there was a shred of truth to this, the GOP would have been all over, as they should have been, and they would have brought the issue before a Court and it would have been settled.
You must think political parties don't try to ruin candidates of the other party. That's not how it works.
More deliberate cluelessness.
Look how slowly the move with Blagojevech. Obama's sleazy illinois bud.
We keep reiminding you that it was the legal problem of the Democrat party to offer a leagal and clean candidate.
We all know that all the original citizenship disputes of Obama were by the Hilary camp and not McCain.
where have you been?
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