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Originally Posted by tstew
Prax, I'm just saying that being irate in your own house should not be an arrestable offense particularly once the police officer realizes that he was actually mistaken. (unless of course you pose a domestic threat to someone else in the house)
I know that there will be conflicting reports about how identification was produced, but everybody agrees that he did identify himself.
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You know if two persons, a husband and wife, are arguing loudly in their house so the neighbors can hear, the cops can arrest them for domestic violence? Read the report, he was not merely irate. He was arrested on the porch. The cop asked the man to go outside and provide ID. If there is a possibility of a break in, a lone cop is not going to mingle around and ask for ID because there could be others in the house. He asked the man to step outside and the man was not cooperative it seems. Sorry but yes that can get you into trouble.
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I have seen officers yelled at even out in the public, by people who were stopped for speeding, by people who are demonstrating, etc...
I've seen officers called pigs and worse by people who were guilty of a whole lot more than coming home.
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It depends on the situations. Every situation is different. This cop was initially alone. The man was uncooperative and yelling. The cop asked him to step outside and to calm down. The man continued to yell and there was a crowd growing. Under those situations I have seen cops take the person into custody and place them in the squad car and either deal with the crowd or get out of there.
Again you make it seem like the cops were doing what they did with the knowledge of a man merely coming home to his house. No. They did not know that.
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At the end of the day, I have yet to read an arrestable offense. I will wait and see what else happens. Ultimately, if the legal system thinks he was actually guilty of breaking the law, he will be charged and we can all see it beyond a reasonable doubt.
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Cops arrest people all the time if they have reasonable cause and later on the charges are dropped. It's the nature of law enforcement.
From what I have quoted so far I do see reasonable cause. Just because some cops on video are a lot more patient does not mean it is still not an arrestable offense. In fact I have seen cops on video where they COULD have arrested someone but did not. Just because they did not does not mean the behavior is not an arrestable offense
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