Is Conservatism Wrong?

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

This is a liberal way of thinking. Of course it would be nice but we don’t live in fantasy land and we need labels to know who and what people are. Can you image in politics if there was no republic or democratic titles we would not have a clue what there basic principles were during elections. (I know there is always exceptions. We will not know everyone by their label. I hope I don’t have to clarify everything)

You shall know them by their fruits.

Labels are used to minimize, marginalize, and dismiss people and their ideas. Labels are wrong, but unfortunately we all play into it from time to time.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

It's a silly premise, to be honest.

One would call me an extreme liberal, and another would call me someone of the Radical Right, hardcore conservative. It's so subjective and relative.

I don't approach God with "how much can I do to ensure I make it to heaven." His blood and atonement in enough for that. I approach Him "what do you like? What pleases you? Do I please you? I love you!" That's the differences in how some folks define holiness.

This is exactly why we dress how we dress , do what we do, or don’t do what we don’t do.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

This is a liberal way of thinking. Of course it would be nice but we don’t live in fantasy land and we need labels to know who and what people are. Can you image in politics if there was no republic or democratic titles we would not have a clue what there basic principles were during elections. (I know there is always exceptions. We will not know everyone by their label. I hope I don’t have to clarify everything)

But you might say you are conversative,and then someone more stricter than you says you are too liberal.
You can't win for losing,we should be conversative in following the word,yet not be demanding in things that the bible does teach as commandments.
I would rather be known by my fruit than a label.

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

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This is exactly why we dress how we dress , do what we do, or don’t do what we don’t do.

Your explanation sounded like an insurance policy of works to make sure you make it to heaven. If I misunderstood you, I'm sorry.

I think most on this board feels we should dress in a way that pleases the Lord. It just isn't black and white, bound in a rule book the way you want it.

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

But you might say you are conversative,and then someone more stricter than you says you are too liberal.
You can't win for losing,we should be conversative in following the word,yet not be demanding in things that the bible does teach as commandments.
I would rather be known by my fruit than a label.

exactly.

The man down the street that thinks women should only wear dark brown pantyhose, hair up at all times, and no internet would call you a damnable liberal, meanwhile you think of yourself as a conservative. We almost pride ourself over our labels. I'm not even sure what I call myself anymore. I just want to please God... not necessarily man anymore.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by Scott Hutchinson

But you might say you are conversative,and then someone more stricter than you says you are too liberal.
You can't win for losing,we should be conversative in following the word,yet not be demanding in things that the bible does teach as commandments.
I would rather be known by my fruit than a label.

That’s why I said I hope I didn’t have to clarify everything. But with so many different types of churches and people there is a need for labels.

[Scott Hutchinson]

BTW I respect those who have more stricter convictions than myself,I respect them.
However I do have a probelm with people teaching things as salvational that the bible doesn't.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

exactly.

The man down the street that thinks women should only wear dark brown pantyhose, hair up at all times, and no internet would call you a damnable liberal, meanwhile you think of yourself as a conservative. We almost pride ourself over our labels. I'm not even sure what I call myself anymore. I just want to please God... not necessarily man anymore.

This is a ridiculous post. In general if you hear someone say “that’s a conservative ( or liberal ) Pentecostal church” You have an idea of what they stand for.

[Scott Hutchinson]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

That’s why I said I hope I didn’t have to clarify everything. But with so many different types of churches and people there is a need for labels.

And even then sometimes people label themselves as something,and even then they don't fit their label.

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

This is a ridiculous post. In general if you hear someone say “that’s a conservative ( or liberal ) Pentecostal church” You have an idea of what they stand for.

I'm showing you how relative that is. How is that ridiculous?

You must be talking about your small fellowship of churches? Churches people I know call liberal, are pretty conservative considering the scope of ideas in Pentecost right now. It's all so relative and means nothing except to you and your buddies who have some understanding of it.