Is Conservatism Wrong?

[GrowingPains]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Well peter used the term.

He took what was used as a negative in Acts 11, and embraced it. A good tact to diffuse antagonizers. They later said they weren't ashamed to be a people "called by His name."

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by GrowingPains

He took what was used as a negative in Acts 11, and embraced it. A good tact to diffuse antagonizers. They later said they weren't ashamed to be a people "called by His name."

Your missing the point.

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by The Only Way

I would just like to get your collective thoughts on this, but in the arguement of liberalism vs. conservatism, I find that people can make claims for both sides, but I would like to propose something! Is it wrong to be a "conservative?" I think this would be my main point... But are you more likely to make it to Heaven as a "conservative" than you are a "liberal?" If your answer is yes, then why not? And mind you, being a conservative includes not having a holier then thou attitude! Why would you not increase your chances of a sure passage to Heaven? And if you answer is no, then give me your reasons! I'd like to get everybody's thoughts on this. Open for discussion!

Originally Posted by hometown guy

Yes it is wrong to be a conservative...................ON AFF

It's wrong for those who call themselves "conservative" within the Apostolic/Pentecostal world to do so...

A real conservative champions a position that slowly accepts change and and even then, only after careful consideration and reflection.

Within the OP world, those who claim to be "conservative" have forced a series of broadscale changes upon much of the movement and have done so with Nancy Pelosi like tactics. They cloud their agenda with Orewellian double talk and do all that they can to silence the voices of those with whom they disagree.

What's wrong with "conservatism" in the Apostolic churches? It's the label. These are NOT conservatives, but radicals bent upon forcing radical change.

Take an honest look at our common heritage; then compare that to the imagined "old paths" that these rascals are trying to sell.

[pelathais]

Read, especially the second paragraph in the right hand column...

"Man is a triune spirit, soul and body. God is triune, a trinity. Three manifestations of one God, not three eternally distinct persons or Gods, as that is tritheism."

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by pelathais

It's wrong for those who call themselves "conservative" within the Apostolic/Pentecostal world to do so...

A real conservative champions a position that slowly accepts change and and even then, only after careful consideration and reflection.

Within the OP world, those who claim to be "conservative" have forced a series of broadscale changes upon much of the movement and have done so with Nancy Pelosi like tactics. They cloud their agenda with Orewellian double talk and do all that they can to silence the voices of those with whom they disagree.

What's wrong with "conservatism" in the Apostolic churches? It's the label. These are NOT conservatives, but radicals bent upon forcing radical change.

Take an honest look at our common heritage; then compare that to the imagined "old paths" that these rascals are trying to sell.

rofl...this is the funniest thing i have read all day.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

This is a ridiculous post. In general if you hear someone say “that’s a conservative ( or liberal ) Pentecostal church” You have an idea of what they stand for.

I was startled when I first came onto this forum to find people calling themselves "conservative" who owned and watched television. In my conservative circle, all televisions should be beaten with sledgehammers. (unless they're being used as "monitors" )

So the label is a little subjective depending upon the group you're with. On this forum, conservative tends to be applied to the people who mostly keep the traditional dress standards.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by pelathais

Read, especially the second paragraph in the right hand column...

"Man is a triune spirit, soul and body. God is triune, a trinity. Three manifestations of one God, not three eternally distinct persons or Gods, as that is tritheism."

Wow. They actually used the T word!

[pelathais]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

This is a ridiculous post. In general if you hear someone say “that’s a conservative ( or liberal ) Pentecostal church” You have an idea of what they stand for.

You would only "have an idea" if you were very familair with the debates within the OP camp and how the terms have been co-opted. Your general social observer would classify "conservatives" and "ultra-cons" as "radicals bent upon implementing massive and sweeping changes."

A real conservative wouldn't behave like that.

[hometown guy]

Originally Posted by *AQuietPlace*

I was startled when I first came onto this forum to find people calling themselves "conservative" who owned and watched television. In my conservative circle, all televisions should be beaten with sledgehammers. (unless they're being used as "monitors" )
So the label is a little subjective depending upon the group you're with. On this forum, conservative tends to be applied to the people who mostly keep the traditional dress standards.

This is what the lager circle of conservatives believe. Me included.

[*AQuietPlace*]

Originally Posted by hometown guy

This is what the lager circle of conservatives believe. Me included.

Well, on this forum, that's ultra-cons.