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Old 04-16-2007, 11:43 PM
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I agree that a zero tolerance policy is the best policy. Seemingly, that is what is written policy. The issue is how one goes about prving such an infraction occured. Think about it: Is the organization now going to have to chase down every rumor and either prove it or disprove it? Or, as policy states, they will investigate if there is a written and signed complaint.

If a man will not admit to a moral failing and the accuser will not put the accusation in wiritng, then what can be done? I think even you realize the legal implicationsof acting in the absence of one of those.
How many good men have accuasations against them? Very few (I would hope). If a minister has nothing to hide; then paying a detective to follow him around a few days should take care of the rumors.

A sound policy agreed upon before an issue ever comes up would protect against negative legal implications.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:47 PM
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Hey, I'M gonna go there....IF I accidentally bumped into someone...BUTT or HIP or SHOULDER or WHATever...I would say "Pardon me" or "excuse me" and move away a bit. And CONTINUE praying or whatever I had been doing previously.

My goodness. What is ludicrous is that it would be a BIG DEAL if you bumped someone's BUTT. Who cares? Move away. If it bothers you to the point that you can't pray, then by all means...go to the other side of the altar...and while you're there, PRAY THROUGH.

But don't condemn every other person in the room and assume that if they accidentally bump a butt, it will so fluster them and distract them, they won't even be able to talk to God!!!!

By all means, DON'T come to our church. I have a 100% Sanguine friend who hugs everyone she meets, and then proceeds to talk their ears off. They're shoulder hugs, but if you're bothered by an accidental Butt Bump, I can't imagine what a shoulder hug would do.
You know I never made it a big deal,I just said the reason they seperate the men from the women is to stop rubbing,brushing,touching,what ever you want to call it.So don't have a heart attack.Sorry I didn't write according to your or others approval.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:52 PM
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Did you honestly think we would miss that?
Yes now we know.The great teacher taught us.
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Old 04-16-2007, 11:58 PM
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So you aren't female?
Not today.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:06 AM
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I will have to keep this in mind when going to the altar.
Me too,maybe I should have said shoulder rubb,people wouldn;t get their mind in the gutter.The thing is I would fell alot worse if I rubbed some ones butt instead of the shoulder.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:12 AM
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I looked for something that stated what you suggest and I'm not finding it.

I use the KJV. What do you use?
Go here,click on simple serches,type in hand,check new testement,read every where it speaks of hand.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/kjv/
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:13 AM
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Seriously...(as much as possible)...what reference do you use to advocate holding hands rather than laying hands on a person's head?

(Scripture reference, that is.)
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/kjv/
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:19 AM
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They lay hands on their hands, not heads, butts, or anything else.

According to Joelel's Bible, anyway.
Well look up hands,not one place when they prayed did they lay hands on peoples heads.They took them by the hands with their hands.
http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/kjv/
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:23 AM
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There is undoubtedly a profound truth revealed herein, but in my weariness, it escapes me at the moment.

I am going to go lay before the Lord, and maybe it will come to me.
Maybe because you never studyed it.
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Old 04-17-2007, 12:26 AM
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I'm still waiting on your scripture reference for laying hands on hands....
Look it up.I did but just don't have the mind to remember where it all is.Type in hands. http://quod.lib.umich.edu/k/kjv/
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