For those who doubt the historical account of Job being a real person it would on take a casual glance at the scriptures where he is mentioned to realiza he was a real person note:
Ez. 14:14...he is listed with Daniel and Noah were they fictional characters? James 5:11 refers to Job as a person.
Fanciful interpetations come because folks don't study the Bible.
Just wanted to be a help.
Good job
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For those who doubt the historical account of Job being a real person it would on take a casual glance at the scriptures where he is mentioned to realiza he was a real person note:
Ez. 14:14...he is listed with Daniel and Noah were they fictional characters? James 5:11 refers to Job as a person.
Fanciful interpetations come because folks don't study the Bible.
Just wanted to be a help.
I don't think that anyone is saying that Job is fictional, simply perhaps that the story of his trials might be part parable.
For those who doubt the historical account of Job being a real person it would on take a casual glance at the scriptures where he is mentioned to realiza he was a real person note:
Ez. 14:14...he is listed with Daniel and Noah were they fictional characters? James 5:11 refers to Job as a person.
Fanciful interpetations come because folks don't study the Bible.
Just wanted to be a help.
I have a serious question for you, Mr. Epley.
If you truly want to help and/or contribute to a discussion, why do all of your remarks make it sound as if you are the only with truth, the only one who reads the Bible, the only one who is able to practice proper interpretation? You made good points here, but then you slap us all in the face with your "folks don't study the bible" remark.
Seriously, why do you feel the need to do that?
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If you truly want to help and/or contribute to a discussion, why do all of your remarks make it sound as if you are the only with truth, the only one who reads the Bible, the only one who is able to practice proper interpretation? You made good points here, but then you slap us all in the face with your "folks don't study the bible" remark.
Seriously, why do you feel the need to do that?
Thought your blood pressure might be too low and I was trying to raise it a little. Looks like it worked.
Thought your blood pressure might be too low and I was trying to raise it a little. Looks like it worked.
I'm serious, Mr. Epley. Answer my question. My blood pressure always stays pretty low and if you want to get it to rise it would be with your "alcoholic/drug addict/false church remarks.
Come on, answer the question....why do you feel the need to put others down every time you say something? Do you feel good about that?
__________________ Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? Will God? No! HE IS THE ONE who has given us right standing with himself. Who then will condemn us? Will Christ Jesus? No, for HE IS THE ONE who died for us and was raised to life for us and is sitting at the place of highest honor next to God, pleading for us. (Romans 8:33-34)
"The greatest enemy to the movement of Jesus Christ is Christianity". –Erwin McManus
For those who doubt the historical account of Job being a real person it would on take a casual glance at the scriptures where he is mentioned to realiza he was a real person note:
Ez. 14:14...he is listed with Daniel and Noah were they fictional characters? James 5:11 refers to Job as a person.
Fanciful interpetations come because folks don't study the Bible.
Just wanted to be a help.
Eliphaz appears to have been a descendant of Esau. Esau had a son named Eliphaz who had a son named Teman. This Teman gave his name to a region of the ancient kingdom of Edom (Habakkuk 3:3).
The presence of apparently historical characters in the story does not mean that the story itself could not have been intended to be understood as a parable. Consider Jesus' reference to Abraham in Luke 16:19-31; a story that Luke clearly says is one of a series of parables.
I suppose I could insert some cranky comment about folks who haven't bothered to read the Gospel of Luke, but I'm not feeling cranky at the moment.
Eliphaz appears to have been a descendant of Esau. Esau had a son named Eliphaz who had a son named Teman. This Teman gave his name to a region of the ancient kingdom of Edom (Habakkuk 3:3).
The presence of apparently historical characters in the story does not mean that the story itself could not have been intended to be understood as a parable. Consider Jesus' reference to Abraham in Luke 16:19-31; a story that Luke clearly says is one of a series of parables.
I suppose I could insert some cranky comment about folks who haven't bothered to read the Gospel of Luke, but I'm not feeling cranky at the moment.
You are amazing!! Someone, please remind me never to argue with this guy.
And once again, you draw no conclusions about the validity of the book of Job, but you just keep asking questions and raising valid points. I'm gonna start a fan club for you.
I learned long ago, when everyone was doing charts about Gog & Magog being the USA and the USSR, not to jump to conclusions about much of anything. The book of Job makes many great points (the Elihu part my favorite). As to it's origin? Who knows?
__________________ Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? Will God? No! HE IS THE ONE who has given us right standing with himself. Who then will condemn us? Will Christ Jesus? No, for HE IS THE ONE who died for us and was raised to life for us and is sitting at the place of highest honor next to God, pleading for us. (Romans 8:33-34)
"The greatest enemy to the movement of Jesus Christ is Christianity". –Erwin McManus
I agree with you that satan is a deceiver. As to the purpose of the book, I think you have a great point there.
No, sister, there is no solid proof that they actually died or did not die in Chapter 1 that I know of. I base my theory on the fact that 7 sons and 3 daughters are mentioned in chapters 1 and 42. Also on the fact that neither the Book of Job itself or any other Book of the Bible offers any proof that they did, in fact die. There is only one thing we know for certain: A messenger came to inform Job that his children had died. Whether they died or not, we can not say for certain. Personally, I lean to the theory that it was a deception.
Regarding Bro. Epley's comment about those who think Job was an allegorical figure. No one to my knowlege has said that. While I believe Job was a real person, some of the Book may, in fact, be allegorical in nature. I personally believe the events depicted were real events, however, I wonder how the writer of the Book of Job knew about the conversation between God and Satan. This part of the Book may, in fact, be a parable that illustrates the struggle between good and evil. Whatever the case, this has been an interesting conversation and maybe, just maybe, it will prompt some of us, including myself, to study the Bible more.
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